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Old Feb 12, 2009 | 03:30 PM
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colunme shift question

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i have a floor shifter in my 51 f-1 and i wont to change it to a columne shifter. Can i use also the steering columne from a 57 pu??
 
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Old Feb 12, 2009 | 05:29 PM
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dunno about that for sure,
but.... i put a 57 ford car column in my 58 merc panel truck no prob.
would have also liked to have gone with the steering wheel too, but the splines were different. i guess so long as the inner diameter of the tube is the same you can always shorten or lengthen as required. the hub of the steering wheel would also have to be the right diameter to look good, guesss the bonus is you'd get the auto cancelling signal light switch mechinisim with the 57 column.
i absolute hate the look of a modern column in a vintage vehicle.

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Old Feb 12, 2009 | 07:50 PM
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you have to change the column and the transmission.
 
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Old Feb 12, 2009 | 08:48 PM
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this is true....
the only reason i changed mine was i put an auto trans in.
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Old Feb 12, 2009 | 11:10 PM
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As far as I know, the truck column shifter mechanism was the same from '48 thru '56. It changed after that, but I don't know that that means it couldn't work -- just means the mechanism parts are different. For one thing, I believe they changed the type of connections to the rods. I'd look for a 48 - 56.
 
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Old Feb 13, 2009 | 11:56 AM
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The steering column on the 57 will be shorter than the 51. The 51-52 will be the longest in terms of the shift mechanism. The shift mechanism looks the same for newer years but gets shorter. Go with one from a 51-52 that had the side shift manual trans and that will fit your steering box. May have to fab up a linkage rod. The only downside is that you won't have a reverse lockout which is typically done on the column for auto trans. Any bumping of the lever and it can change gears.
 
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Old Feb 13, 2009 | 11:58 AM
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Also if you have a floor shifter now does your trans have floor shifter linkage on it? If so you will need to create or replace that linkage with column shift as you will now be moving the lever the opposite way with a column shift.
 
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Old Feb 13, 2009 | 01:03 PM
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"As far as I know, the truck column shifter mechanism was the same from '48 thru '56. It changed after that, but I don't know that that means it couldn't work -- just means the mechanism parts are different. For one thing, I believe they changed the type of connections to the rods. I'd look for a 48 - 56."

FYI, the first year for column shift was '51. Ford advertised it as "more room for your crew" 'cause techically with a floor shift you're only supposed to have the driver and one passenger - the column allowed the driver and two passengers.
 
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Old Feb 13, 2009 | 01:14 PM
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Originally Posted by gearhead1952
Also if you have a floor shifter now does your trans have floor shifter linkage on it? If so you will need to create or replace that linkage with column shift as you will now be moving the lever the opposite way with a column shift.

Not if he want's the shifting pattern to be backwards.... I say that because I have my shifting pattern backward in my '57, my gear lever is up for 1st, and park is all the way down.. something my dad and I messed up years ago, and we learned to love, now I woudn't have it any other way. Real easy to shift when flooring it. Now i'm trying to think of a way to make a ratchet shifter using the stock column.
 
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Old Feb 13, 2009 | 04:36 PM
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Not if he want's the shifting pattern to be backwards.... I say that because I have my shifting pattern backward in my '57, my gear lever is up for 1st, and park is all the way down.. something my dad and I messed up years ago, and we learned to love, now I woudn't have it any other way. Real easy to shift when flooring it. Now i'm trying to think of a way to make a ratchet shifter using the stock column.
He's asking about a standard shift - your are talking about an automatic shift. The two don't mix
 
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Old Feb 13, 2009 | 05:31 PM
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If you're interested I have an extra column with all the column shift stuff still on it so it's complete but I don't have the shift rods themselves. Let me know if you want it and we'll work something out.
 
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