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I plan on a WW, BTS VB, DP Tuner and a 6.0 IC and Trans cooler for my remaining modifications.
I use my truck for towing up to 30k gross.
What would I use a HPOP or Fuel Pressure gauge for?
What will they tell me? I don't mind spending the money if these gauges can tell me of trouble.
Thanks guys
I use my truck for towing up to 30k gross.
What would I use a HPOP or Fuel Pressure gauge for?
What will they tell me? I don't mind spending the money if these gauges can tell me of trouble.
Thanks guys
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No offense, but if you're planning on hanging 20,000 pounds on an F-350 you're already in trouble. I have a CDL and if you're caught running that much overloaded there won't be any mods that you can do to your truck to help you if one of the DOT cops stops you.
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I have to agree. 30k is a bit tough. I think you need DOT numbers at 26k. I don't know if that applies to travel trailers etc., maybe just commercial. But we have been stopped a few times lately. They have a book with what the truck is rated to tow. They don't care about mods. And your registration has to cover it. My 350 is registered for 22k. I tow with a hitch not a 5th wheel. I don't think I would go to 30k with my set up.
What are you towing?
What gauges do you have?
Are you towing flat ground or hills?
What are you towing?
What gauges do you have?
Are you towing flat ground or hills?
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Truck - 5500k + 500lbs extra fuel
Trailer - 6000k
Backhoe-14000k
Assorted job boxes, totes of fuel. etc. - 4-5k
I usually run about 24 with a skid steer but now I gotta haul the backhoe around so i'm putting more weight on.
I'm running a 24ft 10ton gooseneck trailer so I don't beleive i'm over loading too terribly bad.
I'm in missouri so I have a mixture of hills and flat ground.
For gauges I will have Pyro, Boost, and Trans Temp. By the time I'm really running the backhoe around I will have a VB, 6.0ic and trans cooler so that will help on my tranny and turbo.
I just wanted to know what those gauges tell me, I kinda get excited seeing the trucks with 12-15 gauges haha..
Trailer - 6000k
Backhoe-14000k
Assorted job boxes, totes of fuel. etc. - 4-5k
I usually run about 24 with a skid steer but now I gotta haul the backhoe around so i'm putting more weight on.
I'm running a 24ft 10ton gooseneck trailer so I don't beleive i'm over loading too terribly bad.
I'm in missouri so I have a mixture of hills and flat ground.
For gauges I will have Pyro, Boost, and Trans Temp. By the time I'm really running the backhoe around I will have a VB, 6.0ic and trans cooler so that will help on my tranny and turbo.
I just wanted to know what those gauges tell me, I kinda get excited seeing the trucks with 12-15 gauges haha..
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Truck - 5500k + 500lbs extra fuel
Trailer - 6000k
Backhoe-14000k
Assorted job boxes, totes of fuel. etc. - 4-5k
I usually run about 24 with a skid steer but now I gotta haul the backhoe around so i'm putting more weight on.
I'm running a 24ft 10ton gooseneck trailer so I don't beleive i'm over loading too terribly bad.
I'm in missouri so I have a mixture of hills and flat ground.
For gauges I will have Pyro, Boost, and Trans Temp. By the time I'm really running the backhoe around I will have a VB, 6.0ic and trans cooler so that will help on my tranny and turbo.
I just wanted to know what those gauges tell me, I kinda get excited seeing the trucks with 12-15 gauges haha..
Trailer - 6000k
Backhoe-14000k
Assorted job boxes, totes of fuel. etc. - 4-5k
I usually run about 24 with a skid steer but now I gotta haul the backhoe around so i'm putting more weight on.
I'm running a 24ft 10ton gooseneck trailer so I don't beleive i'm over loading too terribly bad.
I'm in missouri so I have a mixture of hills and flat ground.
For gauges I will have Pyro, Boost, and Trans Temp. By the time I'm really running the backhoe around I will have a VB, 6.0ic and trans cooler so that will help on my tranny and turbo.
I just wanted to know what those gauges tell me, I kinda get excited seeing the trucks with 12-15 gauges haha..
As for the RV commercial driver's license, CA requires a written exam (a CDL addendum) if the GVWR for the trailer is over 10K but less than 15K. If the trailer's GVWR is over 15K then you need get an actual CDL.
IIRC the GCWR is around 20-20.5K for our trucks. If by "not too terribly bad" you mean overloading the legal GCWR by 50%, then yes. Whether the truck can handle it or not, you are overloaded in the eyes of the law and the DOT cop's ticket book.
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Our F350's in our transport dept. for the Cat Rental stores are not allowed to pull a backhoe - period - even the smaller 416E's. It's considered overloaded. Even some of the larger Cat Skidsteers and MTL's are off limits now. We have to tow them with F550's, larger Topkicks or combine the load on one of our semi transports.
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Well i'm gonna haul it around anyways so..
My original question was what are the advantages of adding a HPOP or fuel pressure gauge?
And it is not an Fx4 package. That's 4x4
My original question was what are the advantages of adding a HPOP or fuel pressure gauge?
And it is not an Fx4 package. That's 4x4
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The gages can give you a heads up when things are going bad with fuel and oil to prevent a lot of strain on the engine components. This will allow you to identify a problem early and fix it before you end up breaking something or your rig dumps you on the side of the highway with 30K hooked to it.
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My bad. They didn't start the FX4 package until '03. So you don't have the shocks and the sticker. I'm not buying the 5500lbs if you have a 4x4 and a diesel. My F-150 weighed 5200lbs and it was a 2wd.
The gages can give you a heads up when things are going bad with fuel and oil to prevent a lot of strain on the engine components. This will allow you to identify a problem early and fix it before you end up breaking something or your rig dumps you on the side of the highway with 30K hooked to it.
The gages can give you a heads up when things are going bad with fuel and oil to prevent a lot of strain on the engine components. This will allow you to identify a problem early and fix it before you end up breaking something or your rig dumps you on the side of the highway with 30K hooked to it.
Which gauge would be a better gauge to tell of trouble? I just wanna protect my truck.
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Pulling that heavy, I'd definitely do the cooler upgrades you're already looking at. Might also consider an upgraded TC in the tranny to keep the heat from being generated in the first place. I'd do that if I towed heavy consistently. Another suggestion is a turbo upgrade like the Van turbo -- it'll keep the backpressure down reducing the EGTs even more. You'll definitely need some tuning, and DP isn't the only game in town -- I run Tony Wildman's tunes, and they're quite good, too. He makes a Heavy Tow tune as well, and reburns your chip for free if you do further mods requiring tuning tweaks.
The other gauges won't tell you much regarding towing heavy -- just a nicety when you do more mods, etc. Definitely not required for what you're after.
I won't go into the legality issues -- you're a big boy. LOL.....
The other gauges won't tell you much regarding towing heavy -- just a nicety when you do more mods, etc. Definitely not required for what you're after.
I won't go into the legality issues -- you're a big boy. LOL.....
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