406?

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
  #1  
Old 02-10-2009, 10:00 PM
cheez67's Avatar
cheez67
cheez67 is offline
Senior User
Thread Starter
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: brooks a.b.
Posts: 174
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
406?

could a 1962 ford 4door car come with a 406 engine and a two barrel carb?
 
  #2  
Old 02-10-2009, 10:44 PM
85e150's Avatar
85e150
85e150 is online now
Super Moderator
Join Date: Apr 2004
Posts: 31,875
Received 1,595 Likes on 1,300 Posts
Numberdummy will know for sure, if you post data plate & vin.

I seriously doubt it. In fact, I'd bet money it didn't, as the 406 was a hi-po engine, and was either tri-power or 4bbl.

352s got 2bbls, 390s got them in '66 along with low enough compression to run regular to appeal to cheapskates like my dad. Even 429s got them on some of the luxobarges. But not a 406.

Someone could have put that manifold on there. Any casting numbers showing?
 
  #3  
Old 02-10-2009, 11:07 PM
Bear 45/70's Avatar
Bear 45/70
Bear 45/70 is offline
Post Fiend
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: Union, Washington
Posts: 6,056
Likes: 0
Received 7 Likes on 7 Posts
The short answer is NO. All 406's came from the factory with a 4 barrel manifold and carb. If you ordered the 3X2 set up it came in the trunk and was either dealer install or customer installed after delivery.
 
  #4  
Old 02-10-2009, 11:20 PM
cheez67's Avatar
cheez67
cheez67 is offline
Senior User
Thread Starter
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: brooks a.b.
Posts: 174
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
i owned the mentioned car years ago and sold it to a local farmer. before i sold it i took the vin # in too ford to get a carb # to order a carb kit and they said it was a 406. i saw the car at the farm not long ago and it still had the engine in it, i was thinking of getting the car and rebuilding the engine for my hi-boy
 
  #5  
Old 02-10-2009, 11:33 PM
Bear 45/70's Avatar
Bear 45/70
Bear 45/70 is offline
Post Fiend
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: Union, Washington
Posts: 6,056
Likes: 0
Received 7 Likes on 7 Posts
Unless you bought it new, you can't know for sure that it still had a 406 in it. But there was never a 2 barrel 406 from the factory, ever!
 
  #6  
Old 02-14-2009, 05:09 PM
less's Avatar
less
less is offline
Posting Guru
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: Winnipeg
Posts: 1,301
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Originally Posted by cheez67
could a 1962 ford 4door car come with a 406 engine and a two barrel carb?
Nope, Nope and Nope !! The 406 was available in 1962 and 1963 model years, only for the full size Ford. It came in two forms...one (code B) a 385 hp with one 4 bbl. carb (Holley 600 cfm )and a (code G) 405 hp version that had 3 two bbl carbs (Holley for a total of 840 cfm).

That was it.
 
  #7  
Old 02-14-2009, 09:48 PM
Bear 45/70's Avatar
Bear 45/70
Bear 45/70 is offline
Post Fiend
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: Union, Washington
Posts: 6,056
Likes: 0
Received 7 Likes on 7 Posts
Originally Posted by less
Nope, Nope and Nope !! The 406 was available in 1962 and 1963 model years, only for the full size Ford. It came in two forms...one (code B) a 385 hp with one 4 bbl. carb (Holley 600 cfm )and a (code G) 405 hp version that had 3 two bbl carbs (Holley for a total of 840 cfm).

That was it.
Not true the 406 3X2 version was rated at 920 CFM, the 390 was rated at 840 CFM. Even though it was the same identical setup, the 406's added CID let is suck more air thru the carbs.
 
  #8  
Old 02-14-2009, 10:48 PM
less's Avatar
less
less is offline
Posting Guru
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: Winnipeg
Posts: 1,301
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Originally Posted by Bear 45/70
Not true the 406 3X2 version was rated at 920 CFM, the 390 was rated at 840 CFM. Even though it was the same identical setup, the 406's added CID let is suck more air thru the carbs.
I'm not convinced of your info. I got my info from the book, American V8 Engine Data Book (1949-1974) . BTW, the highest hp (401 hp) 390 with 3 X 2 bbl. carbs is rated at 860 CFM, not 840 CFM.

Where does your info come from ?
 
  #9  
Old 02-15-2009, 02:04 AM
65f100_352's Avatar
65f100_352
65f100_352 is offline
More Turbo
Join Date: Apr 2007
Posts: 572
Received 3 Likes on 3 Posts
What about if some moronic poindexter swapped a 2bbl intake on? Correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't all 406's have the bosses, not necessarily drilled, for cross bolted mains? I could be thinking of the 427's though.
 
  #10  
Old 02-15-2009, 03:28 AM
Bear 45/70's Avatar
Bear 45/70
Bear 45/70 is offline
Post Fiend
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: Union, Washington
Posts: 6,056
Likes: 0
Received 7 Likes on 7 Posts
less, My info comes from FORD in their "Muscle Parts Story" Supplement No.1, page 32. I quote;

"INDUCTION - Factory 406's came with either 600 CFM 4-bbl or 920 CFM 6 bbl carburation. The 390 used the same 4-bbl set up, but had 860 CFM rated three duces atop."

65f100_352, Like I said before, If you didn't buy it new, who knows what some dipstick did.
 
  #11  
Old 02-15-2009, 07:55 AM
FFR428's Avatar
FFR428
FFR428 is offline
Needsmorecoffee.

Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: CT
Posts: 3,624
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
Originally Posted by 65f100_352
What about if some moronic poindexter swapped a 2bbl intake on? Correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't all 406's have the bosses, not necessarily drilled, for cross bolted mains? I could be thinking of the 427's though.
Some 406's had the crossbolt bosses and some didn't. If it's a TRUE 406 block you'll see the "HP" cast into the block. Also the block casting numbers for 406's are some of the few that actually match up. Except for the 64 service block. As mentioned it'll be a solid lifter block with the oil pressure relief valve above the rear cam plug. Sure someone could have dropped a 2bbl intake on it at some point. But there are enough external clues to ID it. What heads are in it? C2SE-6090-B, C2SE-6090-C are the 2 most common heads. C3AE-6090-C's are the small chamber heads with valve spring cups. But also the 390 used a version of those in high altitude places with bigger chambers and no spring cups. All the C2 406 heads I've owned had 1.65 ex valves and 2.05 intakes. That's one thing many books get wrong. People get things set in thier mind on what they have. If I had a dollar for every 406-427 that turned out to be a 352..... What exhaust manifolds are on it? Is this something your looking to buy or just a wonderin?
 
  #12  
Old 02-15-2009, 08:04 AM
FFR428's Avatar
FFR428
FFR428 is offline
Needsmorecoffee.

Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: CT
Posts: 3,624
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
Also one thing on 406 production figures.....the info is somewhat limited and unclear to what's actually out there. So I'll say never say never when it comes to Ford. If you had the money and connections anything was possible. Because you just never know. I don't care what all the books in the world say. Documentation on the 427 cars was much better but is still sorta vauge at best. Anyone ever see a 427 4 door Police car?
 
  #13  
Old 02-15-2009, 09:05 AM
NumberDummy's Avatar
NumberDummy
NumberDummy is offline
Ford Parts Specialist

Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: Simi Valley, CA
Posts: 88,826
Received 648 Likes on 543 Posts
1962/63 full sized Ford's and Merc's could be had with 406's.

I had a '63 Galaxie 500 ragtop with one, a friend has one of the very few 1963 Ford 500XL Country Squire Station Wagons with a 406.

While a 1962 Ford fordor sedan could have had a 406, most likely it came with a 292, 352 or a 390 originally. The 223 I-6 was standard equipment.

There is exactly ONE 2V carburetor kit used on ALL 1962/74 Ford's (1962/71 Auto-Lite / 1972/74 Motorcraft) regardless of the engine size: C2AZ-9A586-B. Ford later replaced it with D4AZ-9A586-A.

Since there is only one 2V carb kit, why would a partsman at a Ford dealer need the VIN to come up with the correct kit?

And...the partsman then would have asked...if the VIN showed it to be a 406 with three deuces, do you want THREE 2V kits?

No 406 engine ever came with a 2V. Period...end of discussion.

I have all the Ford HiPo parts catalogs from 1961 thru 1968. These are not the Muscle Parts Catalogs, because they weren't available till 1969.

So if further info is required about 406's, all y'all have to do is ask.
 
  #14  
Old 02-15-2009, 10:23 PM
orich's Avatar
orich
orich is offline
Lead Driver
Join Date: Aug 2003
Location: **** hole San Jose ca.
Posts: 7,592
Likes: 0
Received 9 Likes on 9 Posts
I like closure... To this said, that says..
orich
 
  #15  
Old 03-19-2009, 05:15 PM
MeanGene427's Avatar
MeanGene427
MeanGene427 is offline
Senior User
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: Napa
Posts: 347
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
The 406 came out mid-year in '62, as did the XL package- mine happens to be both, original paint, 80K miles. B-code is the 1x4, 385 HP, G-Code (which mine is) came with 3 dueces, 401HP. Even with the XL package, manual steering and brakes only- big drums like a cop car or wagon, but manual only. The later 406 blocks started having cross-bolt bosses cast in in '63 (I have one, bosses but undrilled). A few of the race cars even came out with 2x4's in late '62, but not an available option to purchase. Could you have gotten a 406 in a four-door? Sure, why not? Stranger things have happened from Ford. If that car had one, it could have been swapped out, manifold changed, been a long time since '62.
427 four-door Police Interceptor? Yes, I saw, and rode in, one when it was new- NY State Police. '63, 427-8V, it was the barracks "Pursuit" car. My dad was a BCI Investigator, and when his regular unmarked 390 PI got hit, it was in the body shop for 3 weeks- and he drove the 427 car in the meantime. The rest of the guys at the barracks were a little cheesed that he got to drive the "hot rod" for 3 weeks straight. White & black with a bubble-gum machine on top. Had a big spot on the hood where the paint was blistered and burned, from it backfiring through the carbs and catching fire- it went to the body shop next. Quiet exhaust, all you could hear was the carbs howling

My 406 car- it has a 427 in it right now, C-6 w/4000 converter, and 5.14 gears- the Evil Twin




And the Croozer Twin, also an XL

 
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
boomer202
1967 - 1972 F-100 & Larger F-Series Trucks
14
01-07-2006 06:36 AM
davethecow
N. California Chapter
1
12-24-2005 01:38 AM
nobull4x4
FE & FT Big Block V8 (332, 352, 360, 390, 406, 410, 427, 428)
1
07-10-2005 01:40 PM
Mud_Hunter
FE & FT Big Block V8 (332, 352, 360, 390, 406, 410, 427, 428)
26
07-12-2004 04:10 PM
red450ih
FE & FT Big Block V8 (332, 352, 360, 390, 406, 410, 427, 428)
4
04-02-2002 07:18 PM



Quick Reply: 406?



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 12:26 PM.