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Old Feb 11, 2009 | 02:21 AM
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I said if you couldn't get there, since you can get there you won't have any issues. I wouldn't try doing the work that I do in my Protege. It'd kill the car in about the first 5 minutes.
 
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Old Feb 11, 2009 | 02:25 AM
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Wow I thinking it may have jumped time. That's how my 86 acted when it jumped. Just a thought from the peanut gallery.
 
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Old Feb 11, 2009 | 02:27 AM
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Originally Posted by orng1
I said if you couldn't get there, since you can get there you won't have any issues. I wouldn't try doing the work that I do in my Protege. It'd kill the car in about the first 5 minutes.
I doubt it would even move yet alone attempt to do anything.
 
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Old Feb 11, 2009 | 02:27 AM
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Originally Posted by rkymtnman30
Wow I thinking it may have jumped time. That's how my 86 acted when it jumped. Just a thought from the peanut gallery.
what did you do to fix yours.
 
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Old Feb 11, 2009 | 02:27 AM
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Originally Posted by rkymtnman30
Wow I thinking it may have jumped time. That's how my 86 acted when it jumped. Just a thought from the peanut gallery.
Thanks, I'll check the timing if I get no where from the codes.
 
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Old Feb 11, 2009 | 02:35 AM
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So far on my check list is

pull codes
check for spark and fuel
timing
fuses
 
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Old Feb 11, 2009 | 03:28 AM
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Don't forget to check the plugs to be sure they aren't fouled out.
 
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Old Feb 11, 2009 | 03:36 AM
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ok will do figured that kinda went with spark and fuel but ok! I may even to a compression test for the hell of it. Depands on how I feel. And if I get it running I'll steal the boost gauge out of the MSP and see what it says.
 
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Old Feb 11, 2009 | 09:02 AM
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Well orng1 the only way I know to fix the timing is to replace the timing set. To check it I would just bump the motor to top dead center and see if the rotor is pointing near the number 1 spark plug wire if not time to replace the timing set.
 
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Old Feb 11, 2009 | 09:09 AM
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I got codes 172, 212, 542, I guess I need to start with checking fuel pressure.
 
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Old Feb 11, 2009 | 09:37 AM
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multiple codes, multiple systems still sings timing to me.
 

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Old Feb 11, 2009 | 10:07 AM
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Have good spark and the plug indicate that is running extremely lean. The cap and rotor looks shot so I'm going to give that a shot. I'm unable to check the fuel pressure. I cant get a hold of a gauge, and Im not 100% to sure how to use one doesn't help either. lol

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172 - HEGO sensor circuit indicates system lean (right side)
212 - Loss of IDM input to EEC or SPOUT circuit grounded.
542 - Fuel pump circuit failure circut failure


Edit: I can hear both pumps prime
 
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Old Feb 11, 2009 | 10:54 AM
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Ill second the timing chain check as my truck ran the same way when the chain went. The fuel pressure guage is easy its just like screwin on a valve stem cap on the tires.
 
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Old Feb 11, 2009 | 11:35 AM
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Hey StealthWyvern, I've been doing some googling, and something that it could be is the $6 fuel pump relay. Have you tried that yet?

It could be that the relay is becoming flaky.

Also, from the other sites I have been reading about similar issues. A common symptom appears to be that the pumps will prime, but won't produce enough pressure for the engine to run. Since both of your pumps are exhibiting the same behavior, I would really suspect that the fuel pressure regulator may have failed.

The pressure regulator seems to be about $50 bucks, so if you can get your hands on a guage, it would be good to see if you are getting the proper pressure before replacing it.

Possibly helpful?:
https://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/1...tml#post884722
 

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Old Feb 11, 2009 | 11:48 AM
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I hope it's not the timing, that's a more expensive repair and if you damage anything it's way expensive. If it is the timing that's of replace the tensioner, the front seals and the water pump.

Usually if your off timing the plugs will be covered in fuel by the fuel not being able to fully burn. Usually.
 
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