360vs390firing order
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OK so I had to read this thread, in just looking at the title I couldn't figure out how such a simple question that only needed a NO could go 30 posts. Then I saw that Bear45/70 was involved.
FWIW there are exceptions, there are one or two V-8s, I think an Olds engine and the nailhead. On these motors the #1 is the second on the shaft, and they go odds and evens like all other GMs, With the same common (except some Cadillacs) GM firing order 1-8-4-3-6-5-7-2. So as you number the cylinders down the crank it goes 2-1-4-3-6-5-8-7, I don't know why they did it that way, but they did.
FWIW there are exceptions, there are one or two V-8s, I think an Olds engine and the nailhead. On these motors the #1 is the second on the shaft, and they go odds and evens like all other GMs, With the same common (except some Cadillacs) GM firing order 1-8-4-3-6-5-7-2. So as you number the cylinders down the crank it goes 2-1-4-3-6-5-8-7, I don't know why they did it that way, but they did.
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OK so I had to read this thread, in just looking at the title I couldn't figure out how such a simple question that only needed a NO could go 30 posts. Then I saw that Bear45/70 was involved.
FWIW there are exceptions, there are one or two V-8s, I think an Olds engine and the nailhead. On these motors the #1 is the second on the shaft, and they go odds and evens like all other GMs, With the same common (except some Cadillacs) GM firing order 1-8-4-3-6-5-7-2. So as you number the cylinders down the crank it goes 2-1-4-3-6-5-8-7, I don't know why they did it that way, but they did.
FWIW there are exceptions, there are one or two V-8s, I think an Olds engine and the nailhead. On these motors the #1 is the second on the shaft, and they go odds and evens like all other GMs, With the same common (except some Cadillacs) GM firing order 1-8-4-3-6-5-7-2. So as you number the cylinders down the crank it goes 2-1-4-3-6-5-8-7, I don't know why they did it that way, but they did.
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Hey man, you said in the WHOLE IDUSTRY WORLDWIDE it's ALWAYS #1, and sense you like being the terminology police I thought someone should correct you. And who better then I, I got alot of practice at it.
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Sonny boy, I lived long enough to have seen a multitude of done nothings like you. Your only claim to fame is nay saying those that have done something.
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Hey Oppossum, how bout that timing problem i had yesterday, anymore advice?
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I tell you my 6th sence is telling me that right now Bear is looking for that thread so he can "get involved" and start some trouble.
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Remember the "true/false tests" in elementary school and how you could tell
the true statements from the false statements even if you didn't know squat?
...by just looking for words like "always" and "never"? :)
So what happen to that skill since then?
Did you not learn it to start with?
What?
I call it "speaking in absolutes" and it'll get you nailed to the wall on the
internet every time someone wants to call you on it.
A month old thread? LOL :)
Heck, that's nothing, it could be years old and be dredged up, just like that.
What you write on the internet -is- etched in stone.
SiO2 and FeOx and who knows what other types of stone. ;)
Why put yourself in that position to start with?
Do you like it for some odd reason?
Do you like being beaten too?
Are you one of them? ;)
Alvin in AZ
(bears, mountain lions, javelinas and $%^ load of jackrabbits 30-30)
the true statements from the false statements even if you didn't know squat?
...by just looking for words like "always" and "never"? :)
So what happen to that skill since then?
Did you not learn it to start with?
What?
I call it "speaking in absolutes" and it'll get you nailed to the wall on the
internet every time someone wants to call you on it.
A month old thread? LOL :)
Heck, that's nothing, it could be years old and be dredged up, just like that.
What you write on the internet -is- etched in stone.
SiO2 and FeOx and who knows what other types of stone. ;)
Why put yourself in that position to start with?
Do you like it for some odd reason?
Do you like being beaten too?
Are you one of them? ;)
Alvin in AZ
(bears, mountain lions, javelinas and $%^ load of jackrabbits 30-30)
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I don't think you are describing me as much as describing yourself. That pretty much describes what you did when you showed up here on this thread. All I do is tell it like I see it and if you can't agree with me, I must be a trouble maker. Sounds like you need to get some self esteem issues setted so you can deal with those that won't bend over and let you have your way. I can garantee you that if I think you are wrong, I will always say so, whether you like it of not. You won't like this so start flaming, "one who attacks what he fears."
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hey, lightin up..want to say,my old Ford is runnin better everyday,and as for the horse's, it can haul the hay. signed, another old man with an old truck...praise the Lord for old vets...and remember too many don't get that privilege..
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I've learned... That under everyone's hard shell is someone who wants to be appreciated and loved.
I've learned.... That to ignore the facts does not change the facts.
I've learned..... That the easiest way for me to grow as a person is to surround myself with people smarter than I am. I've learned.... That when you harbor bitterness, happiness will dock elsewhere. I've learned.... That one should keep his words both soft and tender, because tomorrow he may have to eat them. Now I'm tryin to learn something about these old, Ford trucks. and oh yea, just one more, I've learned.... That life is like a roll of toilet paper. The closer it gets to the end, the faster it goes.
I've learned.... That to ignore the facts does not change the facts.
I've learned..... That the easiest way for me to grow as a person is to surround myself with people smarter than I am. I've learned.... That when you harbor bitterness, happiness will dock elsewhere. I've learned.... That one should keep his words both soft and tender, because tomorrow he may have to eat them. Now I'm tryin to learn something about these old, Ford trucks. and oh yea, just one more, I've learned.... That life is like a roll of toilet paper. The closer it gets to the end, the faster it goes.
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Here! here, The Navy and the AirForce, pretty good standards, and all the vets should agree, we should leave the muckraking to politicians, I've learned... Politics, Poly "meaning many" Tics, "blood sucking creatures"
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AMC (most V8 engines): Clockwise 1-8-4-3-6-5-7-2
• Buick (most V8 except HEI): Clockwise 1-8-4-3-6-5-7-2
• Chevrolet: Clockwise 1-8-4-3-6-5-7-2
• Small Chrysler: Clockwise 1-8-4-3-6-5-7-2
• Big Chrysler and Hemi: Counter-clockwise 1-8-4-3-6-5-7-2
• Ford (5.0L HO, 351W, 351M, 351C, 400): Counter-clockwise 1-3-7-2-6-5-4-8
• Ford: Counter-clockwise 1-5-4-2-6-3-7-8
• Oldsmobile (1967 and up): Counter-clockwise 1-8-4-3-6-5-7-2
• Pontiac (most 1955-81 V8 engines): Counter-clockwise 1-8-4-3-6-5-7-2
Note: 307 Pontiac V8 engine rotates clockwise.
maybe this can help, far as I can tell, is this the subject matter?
• Buick (most V8 except HEI): Clockwise 1-8-4-3-6-5-7-2
• Chevrolet: Clockwise 1-8-4-3-6-5-7-2
• Small Chrysler: Clockwise 1-8-4-3-6-5-7-2
• Big Chrysler and Hemi: Counter-clockwise 1-8-4-3-6-5-7-2
• Ford (5.0L HO, 351W, 351M, 351C, 400): Counter-clockwise 1-3-7-2-6-5-4-8
• Ford: Counter-clockwise 1-5-4-2-6-3-7-8
• Oldsmobile (1967 and up): Counter-clockwise 1-8-4-3-6-5-7-2
• Pontiac (most 1955-81 V8 engines): Counter-clockwise 1-8-4-3-6-5-7-2
Note: 307 Pontiac V8 engine rotates clockwise.
maybe this can help, far as I can tell, is this the subject matter?
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I've learned... That under everyone's hard shell is someone who wants to be appreciated and loved.
I've learned.... That to ignore the facts does not change the facts.
I've learned..... That the easiest way for me to grow as a person is to surround myself with people smarter than I am. I've learned.... That when you harbor bitterness, happiness will dock elsewhere. I've learned.... That one should keep his words both soft and tender, because tomorrow he may have to eat them. Now I'm tryin to learn something about these old, Ford trucks. and oh yea, just one more, I've learned.... That life is like a roll of toilet paper. The closer it gets to the end, the faster it goes.
I've learned.... That to ignore the facts does not change the facts.
I've learned..... That the easiest way for me to grow as a person is to surround myself with people smarter than I am. I've learned.... That when you harbor bitterness, happiness will dock elsewhere. I've learned.... That one should keep his words both soft and tender, because tomorrow he may have to eat them. Now I'm tryin to learn something about these old, Ford trucks. and oh yea, just one more, I've learned.... That life is like a roll of toilet paper. The closer it gets to the end, the faster it goes.
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