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anyone use this stuff, i heard it is good stuff. i originally used power service
grey bottle buy did not notice any changes. i am now using fords diesel additive and cetane boost. will the standyne stuff be any better than fords
in terms of fuel mpg/power?
I have used it most of the time I have had the truck. Works well. I have heard the Ford stuff is actually Stanadyne, but who knows for sure. Does it help mpg's? Not sure - I think I get a.25 to .5 gain, but this kind of change is practically impossible to prove.
i view standyne as the best, but hardest to find. DK is cheap, and easy to get, but i'm not a fan... i'm using motorcraft now and it works ok, does what i need, but i haven't noticed a gain. DK gave me a good MPG better. stanadyne was noticeable, but not huge. the ford stuff, no idea. it's been winter, and mega cold, so i have no basis to guess until it warms up again.
This time of the year the Stanadyne Performance Formula seems to sell quite fast for us. It's not too hard to get through online stores. Getting it locally is another story. It does cost more than PS, but it is among the better quality additives, if not the best. For the best savings, look for the 1/2 gal jugs. That's what I use. I keep a jug in the bed box along with a plastic beaker marked at 12 oz. I use a little more (4oz) than reccomended.
I have used the Stanadyne Peformance Formula with every tank of fuel since my truck was about 2 weeks old. I now have about 56k miles on the odometer and I will have owned this truck for 4 years in September. Always starts quickly, and I am amazed at how clean the fuel filters are when I change them out...They are spotless and look the same as the new filters I am putting in. I believe in the product...I have not had any fuel, injector, or EGR problems to date and the truck runs well. It is not as easy to find as some of the other fuel additives...I get my supply from a diesel engine shop nearby...and you can order it online. It recently took a price jump...it now adds about ten cents in cost to a gallon of diesel...it was about eight cents before the price increase.
I use Powerservice (white in winter for anti-gel) and Grey in summer.
I now have 140,000 miles on my 2003 Excursion 6.0L PSD and still have all 8 original injectors (the older C94 version), EGR valve and turbo. My truck runs as well today as it did when new and I am running the most recent Ford flash.
I use Powerservice due to the lower price and easy availability. I double-dose and due to the lower cost, I can afford to do so and know that I am getting extra cetane improvement and more lubricity in every fill-up.
With the lower than expected cetane levels of today's diesel fuel (our trucks like 45 and higher and most pump fuel is 40 cetane). Extra cetane is a must... and double-dosing with Powerservice is more cost effective than with Stanadyne.
Stanadyne is good stuff, but not sure if that much better for the money... but you can't go wrong using it if that's what you want.
I have not tried Ford cetane boost yet, but I used Stanadyne for the first year and a half or so that I owned my truck. It seemed to make the truck run a little smoother, but I never really saw any improvement in power or MPG. I eventually switched to Power Service since it was easier to find. Now I run B5 to B10 biodiesel and the truck runs very smooth and noticeably quieter. I like it better than either Stanadyne or Power Service in that regard and in the summer I don't use any additives. When it's cold, I will add Power Service anti-gel (white bottle) to lower the cloud point of the fuel. I monitor the biodiesel in cold weather by putting some fuel drained from the HFCM into a jar and keeping the jar outside by my truck. If it starts to cloud I put more PS in the tank.
As stated previously - you can buy Stanadyne in a case: 6 1/2 gallon containers and the overall price becomes reasonable. Also as tated earlier - Availability is limited locally, but internet orders are EASY! I currently use Blue Ridge Diesel, but I have purchased from Diesel Manor also. Both are good. Log-on and get a price quote.
Note - the costs below are TOTAL/DELIVERED costs:
It costs me an additional $1.12 for a 30 gallon fill-up. This is 3.73 cents per gallon fuel cost increase.
I fill up 40 times a year, so the additive is an extra $45 per year.
You can get it a little cheaper by ordering two cases and asking them to tape them together to ship as one.
Last time I did the calculation - this was cheaper than double dosing the Power Service; although I haven't done the research lately. That being said - Beachbumcook has had success w/ his approach and that is worthy of taking note. I have less than half the miles logged and hope that a single dose of Stanadyne will treat me as well. One thing is for sure - I plan to update you guys in 2012.
As stated previously - you can buy Stanadyne in a case: 6 1/2 gallon containers and the overall price becomes reasonable. Also as tated earlier - Availability is limited locally, but internet orders are EASY! I currently use Blue Ridge Diesel, but I have purchased from Diesel Manor also. Both are good. Log-on and get a price quote.
Note - the costs below are TOTAL/DELIVERED costs:
It costs me an additional $1.12 for a 30 gallon fill-up. This is 3.73 cents per gallon fuel cost increase.
I fill up 40 times a year, so the additive is an extra $45 per year.
I don't see how you can treat your fuel for that cost with Stanadyne. I don't want to be argumentative here, but with my handy dandy calculator and taking the prices for a half-gallon bottle from Blue Ridge, I come up with a cost of 7.2 cents to treat a gallon of diesel ($17.28 / 240 gallons= .072). That figure is ignoring shipping...so it will more unless you are close enough to just pick it up or order enough to get free shipping. I will tell you that they sell Stanadyne for less than I am buying it...even with shipping to my location I could save $5 a case if I purchase 2 cases of the 16 oz bottles. Those bottles fit behind my back seat well and I usually keep 2 bottles back there to cover trips to and fro. If your calculations are right..and mine are wrong, then I am happy because it cost less than I think to treat my fuel!
Thanks for catching my error - your calcs are correct, then add shipping.
I had a typo in my gallons to ounces conversion program.
Starting over (start w/ $$'s):
I purchased one case (6) 1/2 gallon containers for $125.02 - delivered.
Corrected Calcs:
3 gallons is 384 ounces or apprx. 48 treatments (30 gallon fill).
(I am actually over treating by apprx. 4% at this rate since 64 oz (1/2 gal) treats 250 gallons).
This is $2.61 per fill OR 8.7 cents per gallon.
This is $104.40 per year
If I measured exactly, I could drop about 4% in the cost and if I ordered 2 cases (and they taped them together for shipping), I could knock off another 5-6%). Theoretically the cost could come down to about $2.35 or so per fill up.
I can't recall Beachbumcooks exact prices, but the most recent check I did was $10 per 80 ounces. This treats 250 gallons. Double dosing it, will treat 125 gallons. (normal treatment would be 9.6 oz for 30 gal and double dosing would be 19.2 oz per 30 gal). That is $2.40 per fill.
If I got my math correct this time, Stanadyne is around the same cost as double dosing the Power Service - maybe a little less. To be totally fair, I did not try to source the Power Service in bulk (multiple 80 oz containers). It is probably a little cheaper by doing it that way. Bottom line - I still feel the cost is reasonable.
I also add 0.5 gallons of Bio for extra lubricity. I usually get it for close to current diesel prices. I probably a lose little in mpg w/ it due to lower BTU value (but this was just a post on Stanadyne).
Sorry for the errors. (note to self - quit doing math at 6 AM).
If you guys want to save some money, just mix Stoddard solvent, aka mineral spirits, with petroleum naptha in a 10:1 ratio, toss in a splash of trimethylbenzine, then put 8 ounces of the concoction in each fill up. You'll be using mostly the same ingredients that are in Stanadyne and most other diesel fuel additives.