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Old Jan 30, 2009 | 05:40 PM
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76 starting problem

1976 F-250 2wdr with a 460

Starts good when cold but backfires and wont start when warm.
Drags the battery down and backfires.
But when its cold it barley turns over and it goes?
Any ideas?
I just aquired this truck so i dont know all its quirks yet.
 
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Old Jan 30, 2009 | 05:49 PM
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Timing too far advanced? Check it when its running, shouldn't be more than 10 degrees or so BTDC.
 
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Old Jan 30, 2009 | 07:31 PM
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Unless the timing chain jumped its not that.
It was running fine and nobody changed anything.
 
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Old Jan 30, 2009 | 07:49 PM
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Maybe your advance is stuck?
 
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Old Jan 30, 2009 | 07:58 PM
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Originally Posted by Bgasrickshaw
Maybe your advance is stuck?
Good thought.................
I had that happen once before on another old truck.
 
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Old Feb 3, 2009 | 01:09 AM
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Its seems to start when cold.
Let it warm up for awhile and it wont start again after its shut off.
Leave it overnight and it starts.
Not very good if you go to the store , you have to stay overnight.
 
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Old Feb 3, 2009 | 01:50 AM
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Originally Posted by Vinford
Unless the timing chain jumped its not that.
This is why he suggested to check your timing. Unless you check yourself, how do you know it hasn't jumped time? Only step-by-step, objective diagnosis will pinpoint your problem. Check the timing as n9lhm suggested. Backfiring when warm often indicates a timing issue. The fact that the starter is dragging makes me think this even more. Engines are much more tolerant of advanced timing when cold, which could explain why it doesn't happen when it has sat overnight. If you check your timing and it's set to spec, that's great, then we can move on and check other things. The key is not to assume something is okay until you've seen the results with your own eyes. I'm not saying it has jumped time, I'm saying it sounds like it could have, and you need to check before moving on. Otherwise you're chasing your tail
 
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Old Feb 3, 2009 | 03:05 PM
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I've never experienced it just heard about it...
Starters getting hot from the exhaust etc and not working good.

Alvin in AZ
 
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Im thinking it was ice somewhere.
Its warmer today and it seems to start and run fine.
 
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Old Feb 3, 2009 | 10:12 PM
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After having a better look at this thing , since it stated , its actually not a bad old beater.
Its a XLT so its kinda nice inside.
2 tone blue with all the chrome outside.
A decent running 460
Its got alot of surface rust but Im thinking "project" .
 
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Old Feb 3, 2009 | 10:28 PM
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It will be a fun project Ken.I say go for it.
 
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Originally Posted by sedly
It will be a fun project Ken.I say go for it.
Theres not a dent in it .
Surface rust ,but nothing a paint job wouldnt cure.
 
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