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Old Jan 26, 2009 | 07:23 PM
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cant seem to get it started

i cant seem to get my truck started it turns over just not enough for it to start not sure whats the problem
 
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Old Jan 26, 2009 | 07:58 PM
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From: Gadsden Purchase
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i cant seem to get my truck started it turns over just
not enough for it to start not sure whats the problem
You mean the starter sounds tired or weak?

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Old Jan 26, 2009 | 08:04 PM
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yeah its sounds weak
 
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Old Jan 26, 2009 | 09:34 PM
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it wants to turn over but it just wont sounds very weak and gets weaker every time you try to turn it over
 
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Old Jan 26, 2009 | 09:40 PM
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From: Gadsden Purchase
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yeah its sounds weak
Have a meter?
Know someone with a meter?
Chances are it's just a weak battery.
But there's no way to know without a meter.
Willing to buy a cheap analog meter?

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Old Jan 26, 2009 | 09:46 PM
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From: Gadsden Purchase
Originally Posted by 69ranger250
it wants to turn over but it just wont sounds very weak
and gets weaker every time you try to turn it over
Sounding more and more like it's just the battery. :)
How old is the battery?

It could be just about anything tho from the battery to the starter.
Could be a symptom of a problem with the charging system too.

A "multimeter" (voltmeter) will tell you what the problem is as easy
as putting the leads down in the right places and having someone help
try starting it a few times.

Are you game? ;)
Or just want to change out the battery and see if it's the problem? ;)

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Old Jan 26, 2009 | 09:53 PM
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Originally Posted by Alvin in AZ
Sounding more and more like it's just the battery.
How old is the battery?

It could be just about anything tho from the battery to the starter.
Could be a symptom of a problem with the charging system too.

A "multimeter" (voltmeter) will tell you what the problem is as easy
as putting the leads down in the right places and having someone help
try starting it a few times.

Are you game?
Or just want to change out the battery and see if it's the problem?

Alvin in AZ

Thanks Alvin Im Willing To Try Watever It Takes Ive Tried 3 Diffrent Batterys already all do the same thing after a day or to
 
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Old Jan 26, 2009 | 09:55 PM
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the battery i got in it now is 4 yrs old with a 6 yr warranty and ive tried 2 others im game for doing what it takes to fix the problem
 
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Old Jan 26, 2009 | 10:27 PM
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From: Gadsden Purchase
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Ive Tried 3 Diffrent Batterys already all do the same thing after a day or to
So a new battery is fine at first?
If so... sounds like a charging problem.

The trick is to have a charged battery and put it in and see if it'll start.

When you do that read the voltage of the battery by digging the meter leads
into the battery's own terminals, not on its clamps. And watch it as the helper
turns the key on then to start.

When everything is good the voltage will read 12 to 12+1/2 volts.
Won't drop when the key is turned on.
Will drop not lower than 10 volts as the starter turns the engine over.

As soon as the key is release from its start position the voltage wil recover.

If the engine started and is then revved up a little, the voltage will go up to
about 13+1/2 to 14 volts.

Get your meter and helper (or your buddy with the meter) and try it out on
a good running vehicle and see how it should act. :)

When the starter is engaged and turning the engine over it's putting a heck
of a load the circuit. That's a good time to figure out a couple things. :)

If the voltage drops off below 10 volts and the starter sounds sluggish then
I'd suspect a weak battery. Fresh charge crap-battery can still act weak. ;)

If the voltage doesn't drop hardly at all or even -none- that means you have
an "open" circuit somewhere between the battery's terminals and the inside
of the starter. "Opens" are easy to pin point it's the "short" circuits that's a
pain.

If the voltage doesn't drop, put the positive meter lead over on one of the
heavy terminals on the starter relay and try it again. If the voltage drops to
zero the open is between where you put the positive lead and the battery's
positive terminal, where the lead was before.

That ought to be enough of my rattlin on for you to find the trouble.

My guess is you aren't going to see the voltage rise to ~14 volts when you
get it started and rev it up a little.

Alvin in AZ
ps- anybody on here got access to a voltmeter that hasn't tried
this procedure before? Do it soon if you can just for the fun of it. ;)
 
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Old Jan 27, 2009 | 06:58 PM
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Im thinking it may have problems getting gas to the carb i put a lil gas in the carb and it turned over for about 30 seconds then died out
 
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Old Jan 28, 2009 | 02:20 AM
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I'm Going to try that later today Thanks Alvin i got a buddy coming over
 
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Old Jan 28, 2009 | 11:44 AM
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Have you check out th estarter? Sounds like a dragging starter. If the bushings are bad the starter will drag the battery down like you are saying.
 
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Old Jan 28, 2009 | 11:50 AM
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From: Gadsden Purchase
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I'm Going to try that later today Thanks Alvin i got a buddy coming over
Have your buddy with the meter try my method out on a good running
vehicle and see how it acts "voltage wise" so you can see it first hand.

How old is the gasoline?

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Old Jan 28, 2009 | 12:17 PM
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Originally Posted by bertha66
Have you check out th estarter? Sounds like a dragging starter.
If the bushings are bad the starter will drag the battery down like
you are saying.
Cool idea and good point. :)

The meter will tell you what's wrong, even if it's the starter. :)

It's my personal crusade to get guys to use a meter to find electrical problems
instead of swapping parts until the trouble clears up.

It's a double whammy. ;)

While taking stuff apart, swapping out parts etc you can clear-up a problem
like a bad connection and think the new part fixed it. Where if a guy would've
used a meter to start with -while it was still failing- he would -know- what the
trouble was and be working from a position of knowledge instead of from a
position of guessing and gambling.

Some electrical problems can clear themselves (temporarily) too.
So the trick is to jump in there and check it right away with a meter. ;)

It ain't rocket science, it's like plumbing except you can't see the leaks or other
problems since (believe it or not) they are invisible (but lucky us) they are not
invisible to the meter. ;)

Checking stuff out with a meter can reveal more than one problem too.
BTDT

Alvin in AZ
 
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