It'd really be just as easy and a lot cheaper to make your own (look back in this thread)

Oh, and welcome to FTE

 

There is an article in the June 2001 issue of Rod and Custom magazine.
It gives the pros, and cons of hooking up the system, and shows great diagrams on how to install it. The install kit is called Superflames, and it costs a mere $80. That is including a nice little 2 switch box, and toggle.(you supply plugs)Here are some sites thAt have some info for you guys wanting to roast marshmallows.

Pyrocars
www.geocities.com/motorcity/garage/9798/

Scorch
sites.netscape.net/scorch1963/homepage

Juniors world of customs
www.geocities.com/chopped50/home

And some other sources for you to look at.
www.hotrodsofnorco.com

Remember the black car from the movie Grease? Badazz!
Hope this helps.

 

I have a flame thing goin(aint no kit)it isnt that great
cause you dont see them unless you look....But I gotta
wonder what the person I just tore by at 90mph thinks
when 4 foot long flames start shooting out the pipes
when I slow down(the beast runs rich). Wonder if insurance
would cover burning someone... this is jes my 2 cents worth.





Fe power

 

you people are all a bunch of retards im 13 years old and I no that u cant do that ##### with the damn sparkplugs IT DOSNT WORK!!!
You have to have the pipe coming straight from the engine without that box thing or you pour 1 cup of gas down the tailpipes believe me the sparkplug thing dosnt work sum retard made that ##### up!

 

Might help to learn how to spell,before you go calling people retards.Just makes them wonder which school bus you rode on.

FYI it takes at least 10,000 volts to jump that gap.The reason your coils provide more voltage is due to the fact they have to fire under compression.

 

You're 13, why arn't you watching Barney or something, there is no place here for your rude comments and language.



Primary rig is:
95' F-150 XLT 4x4, 302, 5 spd, MSD 6A, Sunroof, and some 32" BFG Muds .

Pictures are in!!


Then theres:
99' Mustang GT 4.6L
88' F-250 Superduty 4x4 351/c6
95' Mercury Cougar 4.6L V-8
80' E-350 300/6 with a
3 spd column shifter. Top speed is 65mph, Go Baby Go!

 

hey kid...take a physics and an automotive class to learn how it works...oh wait...your not old enough yet...your still on science 101 and woodworking......

Ryan

 

In addition to a coil it seems you will also need a way to trigger the coil. If you just hook the coil up to 12V and ground it will never discharge through the plug. Ignition system interrupt the current through the primary windings of the coil with either points or an ignition control module. You might be able to connect the negative end of the coil for the flamethrower to the negative side of the coil for the ignition and allow the engine trigger to work both coils. That might cause too much current through the engine trigger system though. You could also rig up some other way to turn the coil on and off.

 

Guys, give the kid a break. He's here, and he's learning, even if he is a little wet behind the ears at this time he is still learning and has a interest in a great subject!!!!! Ford trucks!!!!! He could be out there sticking crap up his nose or in his arms. Who knows? He could be a future moderator on this board?? (no offence intended) Kids come up with the wildest ideas, and I bet these ford guys are the people to make those ideas a reality!!
If you put a toggle switch before the coil, wouldn't that give you the initial power surge when you flipped it on the send a spark through the plug? flip it off and on a few times and you have the same thing as if points were opening and closing. Right?

chuck

 

could someone just take and run a wire from their existing coil to a switch and from the switch to the spark plug in the exhaust? Or would the voltage drop across the wire and switch be too great to fire the plug?

 

Whether he is trying to learn, or not, and age is no factor here, that doesn't excuse the rude post. There is no need of that, especially from an inexperienced kid to adult gearheads. I think we can figure out how to do this without him.



Primary rig is:
95' F-150 XLT 4x4, 302, 5 spd, MSD 6A, Sunroof, and some 32" BFG Muds .

Pictures are in!!


Then theres:
99' Mustang GT 4.6L
88' F-250 Superduty 4x4 351/c6
95' Mercury Cougar 4.6L V-8
80' E-350 300/6 with a
3 spd column shifter. Top speed is 65mph, Go Baby Go!

 

<snip>
>If you put a toggle switch before the coil, wouldn't that
>give you the initial power surge when you flipped it on the
>send a spark through the plug?
I want to say yes but have had experience with solenoids where while I was holding onto one end and power was applied I was ok but when power was shut off I got zapped. (It was a horn relay but same principal) IIRC the magnetic field collapses faster when current stops than it builds when current is applied. The faster the field changes state the larger the voltage spike.


>flip it off and on a few
>times and you have the same thing as if points were opening
>and closing. Right?
>
Right. But it would be easier to drive if it could be done automatically.

>chuck

 

>could someone just take and run a wire from their existing
>coil to a switch and from the switch to the spark plug in
>the exhaust? Or would the voltage drop across the wire and
>switch be too great to fire the plug?

Could it be done? Yes. BUT here are the problems I see: It looks like you are talking about tapping into the secondary side of the coil and running it back to the back of the truck.

1. How to splice into the coil lead between the coil and the distributor.

2. At the voltage levels we are talking about you would need to get a 20 foot long (30?) piece of sparkplug wire to run back there. Regular wire wouldn't carry the voltage without the insulator breaking down and shorting the spark to the chassis. When that happens the truck will shut off.

3. At these voltage levels I don't think a regular toggle switch would cut it.

I personally would try it like this:

(12V source)---(switch)---(+ term of second coil)
(-term of second coil)---(-term of ignition coil)
(second coil high tension lead)---(spark plug)

Mount the second coil near the spark plug in the rear of the vehicle.

Now not to recommend it BUT I was watching Monster Garage on the Discovery channel the other night and Jessie James (some relation to the outlaw) used a BernzOMatic propane cylinder to supply fuel to the exhaust pipe a little upstream from where they put the spark plug. Had a valve on it to turn it on as needed.