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Old Jan 15, 2009 | 03:10 PM
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rear window weatherstrip question

Is the weatherstripping used on the factory slider the same as the one piece glass? I'm changing from a slider to a one piece and the stripping looks good enough to reuse if it'll fit. TIA!
 
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Old Jan 15, 2009 | 04:21 PM
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Yes, and no.

There are three types of Rear Window seals used between 1973-1979.

The following part numbers may have been updated.....

1: 1973-1979 : D3TZ-1042084-A : Without Inserts. (Used with Fixed or Sliding Glass)

2: 1973-1976 : D3TZ-1042084-C : With Wide Aluminum Insert (Fixed Glass only)

3: 1977-1979 : D7TZ-1042084-A : With Flexible "Chrome" Plastic Insert. (Fixed Glass only)


You should use as new seal, but the one from a slider should fit the fixed glass. (IE: it's #1 from the list.)
 
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Old Jan 15, 2009 | 04:54 PM
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Thanks, that's the one I've got (no insert) New weatherstrip here in Canada was $50 - $80, that's why I'd try reusing it if I could.
 
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Old Jan 15, 2009 | 07:04 PM
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Originally Posted by 81-F-150-Explorer
Yes, and no.

There are three types of Rear Window seals used between 1973-1979.

The following part numbers may have been updated. Nope.

1: 1973-1979 : D3TZ-1042084-A : Without Inserts. (Used with Fixed or Sliding Glass)

2: 1973-1976 : D3TZ-1042084-C : With Wide Aluminum Insert (Fixed Glass only)

3: 1977-1979 : D7TZ-1042084-A : With Flexible "Chrome" Plastic Insert. (Fixed Glass only)
These were the last viable part numbers. But, all three are now obsolete.

At one time there was D3TZ-1042084-B. Ford later replaced it with D3TZ-1042084-C.

The back glass plastic "chrome" window trim is still available from Ford as it was used thru 1996.
 
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Old Jan 15, 2009 | 07:13 PM
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Thanks, that's the one I've got (no insert) New weatherstrip here in Canada was $50 - $80, that's why I'd try reusing it if I could.
And hold onto that OEM stuff as long as you can. The aftermarket stuff won't last a fraction as long as the original weatherstripping.
 
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Old Jan 15, 2009 | 07:18 PM
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As a related aside Bill, there is a company offering rear windows that supplies the same part for 73 thru 96, not just 73 thru 79.

What's the same and what's different from 79-96? Does OEM windows and seals interchange in all those years?
 

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Old Jan 15, 2009 | 07:27 PM
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Thanks for the other replies The original weatherstripping looks to be in great shape so I figure it's worth a try. Just going to wait for a warm day this spring (or bum a friends heated garage!)

peganit2, from what I've read on this site, '73 - 96 rear glass interchanges.
 
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Old Jan 15, 2009 | 07:41 PM
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Originally Posted by caspermj
Thanks for the other replies The original weatherstripping looks to be in great shape so I figure it's worth a try. Just going to wait for a warm day this spring (or bum a friends heated garage!)

peganit2, from what I've read on this site, '73 - 96 rear glass interchanges.
Cool, that opens up the options a lot. And to much newer weatherstripping.

Thanks. I need weatherstripping too. I'm getting OEM.
 
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Old Jan 15, 2009 | 07:45 PM
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As a related aside Bill, there is a company offering rear windows that supplies the same part for 73 thru 96, not just 73 thru 79.
That may be, but that's not what the Ford truck parts catalogs say, and that's all I have to go by.

Compare these weatherstrip part numbers against what's posted above.

1980/96: E1TZ1042084A .. Back Glass Weatherstrip w/o Mouldings.

1980/96: E3TZ1042084D .. Back Glass Weatherstrip with Mouldings.

1980/96: E7TZ1542084A .. Back Glass Weatherstrip-with Sliding Window.

The back glass is the same thru 1996.

And...1967/79 windshields are the same but the weatherstrips aren't.

1967/72 is different than what was used 1973/79.

It has to do with the corners.
 
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Old Jan 15, 2009 | 07:54 PM
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Originally Posted by peganit2
As a related aside Bill, there is a company offering rear windows that supplies the same part for 73 thru 96, not just 73 thru 79.

What's the same and what's different from 79-96? Does OEM windows and seals interchange in all those years?

All the seals and back windows will interchange, 1973-1996, because the window hole in the cabs are exactly the same. however....

The Rear fixed glass is slightly thicker for 1973-1979, than it is for 1980-1996. This is why a new set of seals were for the 1980-1996 trucks.

The Factory Sliders 1973-1981, were changed in 1982 so trucks with factory sliders after 1982 has a different seal yet.

It can be all mix and matched, but you if you put a 1973-1979 fixed window into a 1989 for example, you need a 1973-79 seal, or vise versa, a 1980-1996 window, in a 1973 will need a 1980-96 seal, for it to seal properly.

This is how I understand it.
 
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Old Jan 15, 2009 | 08:20 PM
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Originally Posted by NumberDummy
That may be, but that's not what the Ford truck parts catalogs say, and that's all I have to go by.

Compare these weatherstrip part numbers against what's posted above.

1980/96: E1TZ1042084A .. Back Glass Weatherstrip w/o Mouldings.

1980/96: E3TZ1042084D .. Back Glass Weatherstrip with Mouldings.

1980/96: E7TZ1542084A .. Back Glass Weatherstrip-with Sliding Window.

The back glass is the same thru 1996.

And...1967/79 windshields are the same but the weatherstrips aren't.

1967/72 is different than what was used 1973/79.

It has to do with the corners.

Here is some more part numbers from the info I have. I believe most of these were updated to the ones that Bill Posted above. My Ford literature is grosely out of date, given to me by my local dealer, why I don't use it often for part numbers.

1: 1980-1982: E0TZ-1042084-B : Plastic Chrome Insert (Fixed Glass)

2: 1980-1982: E0TZ-1042084-A : Without Plastic Chrome Inserts (Fixed Glass)

3: 1980-1981: D3TZ-1042084-A : Without Plastic Chrome Inserts (Sliding rear window)

4: 1982-??? : E2TZ-1042084-A : with Plastic Chrome Insert (Sliding rear window.
 
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Old Jan 15, 2009 | 08:22 PM
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Originally Posted by 81-F-150-Explorer
All the seals and back windows will interchange, 1973-1996, because the window hole in the cabs are exactly the same. however....

The Rear fixed glass is slightly thicker for 1973-1979, than it is for 1980-1996. This is why a new set of seals were for the 1980-1996 trucks.

The Factory Sliders 1973-1981, were changed in 1982 so trucks with factory sliders after 1982 has a different seal yet.

It can be all mix and matched, but you if you put a 1973-1979 fixed window into a 1989 for example, you need a 1973-79 seal, or vise versa, a 1980-1996 window, in a 1973 will need a 1980-96 seal, for it to seal properly.

This is how I understand it.
Service part replacement:

According to my Ford O-S-I Catalog (on microfiche dated 1991), the 1973/79 back window glass was replaced by the 1980 and later back window glass.

After all these years, who really knows what's back there.

O-S-I = Obsolete-Supercede-Interchange

Do you have a microfiche reader? If so...I have TONS of extra slides. Ask....and ye shall receive.

I don't need OSI after 1991, because the Ford Dealer Parts Locator System updates part numbers for these later vehicles, and updates the older stuff if it's been updated..

Ford updates 10's of 1000's of part numbers every year...and...it's a ROYAL PITA to keep up with all this scheiss!
 
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Old Jan 15, 2009 | 08:36 PM
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I don't have a reader, it's all paper books I got. Some of them are falling to bits too.

The wiring diagrams is what I use most often.
 
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Old Jan 15, 2009 | 08:53 PM
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Originally Posted by 81-F-150-Explorer
I don't have a reader, it's all paper books I got. Some of them are falling to bits too.

The wiring diagrams is what I use most often.
This will help:

The 1980/89 Ford Light Truck Parts Catalog is available on a CD from hipoparts.com and was scanned from the last printed/microfiche versions, so most of the part numbers will kinda be up to date.

The 1973/79 version is also available, but was scanned from the first complete parts catalog and has errors and omissions.

This is the one that D used, and every day, there was a post with out of date part numbers that someone (not saying who), had to correct.

It's better than nothing, but that's all I have to say about it.

All my stuff after 1972 is on fiche, and is the newest available.

Check with local dealers, no one uses microfiche any longer, so if the reader is still there, you can prolly get it, and the fiche, too...for next to nothing.

You want the Mark VII version, introduced in the mid 1980's. The earlier readers are crap.

Ask about printed parts catalogs, too. Most dealers have thrown them in the trash, but you might get lucky.

I just did...60 paper parts catalogs from 1928 thru 2002, 500 microfiche slides and the reader: FREE!

I also got all the HiPo parts catalogs 1961/68, and a bunch of other stuff.
 
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Old Jan 17, 2009 | 10:49 AM
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Man you guys know some stuff! So I may have a problem putting my flat glass (from a mid 80's F series) into my '79 using the original weatherstripping (glass thinner). Hmm, well I won't be tackling it for a little while anyway so I might just try to find some '80 up w.s. instead. Thanks to everyone
 
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