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Old Jan 15, 2009 | 11:05 AM
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She still wont start

So I am still having a problem with my truck not starting. At first everything was fine and it ran, but it had a small fuel leak. It was leaking from a small bolt on the back of the IP. I decided to pull it off and try to wrap it with Teflon tape to try and stop the leak. When I pulled the bolt out, it was really a long dowel. So I pulled it out and put Teflon tape on it and tried to screw it back in, but something was different. The bolt would not bottom out. I realized that the threads were basicly gone on the ip. Anyways, long story short, I got a new IP. It was a 7.3 ip and I have a 6.9, but I was told before that it would work. Now I have bled the lines of air, and she still wont start. It is getting fuel, but it will not start. I have tried to use either and no go. I have tried glow plugs, no go. What should I do?
 
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Old Jan 15, 2009 | 11:42 AM
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Any smoke when cranking?

Did You remove the timing gear cover?
 
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Old Jan 15, 2009 | 11:45 AM
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Did You remove the timing gear cover?
Yes, how did you replace the IP?
 
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Old Jan 15, 2009 | 11:51 AM
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No I did not remove the cover. I took the nuts off the studs and then took the bolts off the timing gear and pulled the IP out from the back. Then put it back in the same way. I made sure that the short dowel that runs through the timing gear lined back up.

When I use either, you can smell the either at the tail pipe when starting.
 
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Old Jan 15, 2009 | 11:55 AM
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I suspect You've still got air in the lines.
 
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Old Jan 15, 2009 | 12:52 PM
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I thought so too, but I have tried to clear the air 4 times and I keep getting nothing but fuel coming out. When I go home I will try again, but is there anything else it can be?
 
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Old Jan 15, 2009 | 12:57 PM
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Are you bleeding the system at the injectors? Are you getting a good amount of fuel at the injectors? All your connections tight?
Do you have the timing marks lined up or close?

Jason
 
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Old Jan 15, 2009 | 02:33 PM
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I didnt pull the timing cover off so I cant see the timing marks. I am bleeding at the injectors and am getting good amount of fuel at the injectors.
 
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Old Jan 15, 2009 | 02:50 PM
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How is your cranking speed? If you can count the revs while engine is turning over it is not cranking fast enough.
 
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Old Jan 15, 2009 | 02:54 PM
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Can you hear a slight click in the IP when you turn on the key?. And I think they are talking about the two scribe marks (one on hub of IP the other on the gear cover where IP bolts on. They should be close, maybe move pump mark to passenger side of cover mark slightly
 
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Old Jan 15, 2009 | 05:19 PM
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My cranking speed is good. I just replaced the starter, and it sounds fine.

I do hear the click when I turn the key.

The hub of the IP is not a complete circle. It has a small squared piece missing, and on the timing gear is a short dowel that runs into it. At least that is how it was on the previous ips
 
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Old Jan 15, 2009 | 05:28 PM
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Look over the back side of the drive gear cover down onto the top of the IP where it bolts on to the cover, should see a scribe mark there, one on pump one on cover
 
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Old Jan 15, 2009 | 06:05 PM
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Hope this helps, picture didn't come out as big as I hoped, Anyways the picture below the tool the long arrow pointing to middle, those marks
 
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Old Jan 15, 2009 | 10:06 PM
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I will look into that as soon as I get home. Thanks for the help, and I will post back with what happens.
 
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Looking straight down at the top IP nut.



Static timing marks at the yellow arrows.
 
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