oil bypass
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From: Gulf Coast of Florida
I really like what Marv did in doing this himself and the write-up with a parts list. I'm adding a few things to it on my setup.
What I'm adding:
4 - 2" long x 1/2" diameter heat shrink tubing
8' of clear vinyl tubing (3/8" I.D. or 1/2" O.D.)
What I'll be doing with these is to put the clear tubing over the braided lines and then use the heat shrink tubing to seal & secure it in place. This will help to keep the braided sheathing from shredding anything it comes in contact with, and help keep things pretty. I may even add some 1/2" split-loom tubing over the clear vinyl in high friction areas.
Yes, I'll get pics up. I've ordered the shrink tube so it will be the end of the week before I have any.
What I'm adding:
4 - 2" long x 1/2" diameter heat shrink tubing
8' of clear vinyl tubing (3/8" I.D. or 1/2" O.D.)
What I'll be doing with these is to put the clear tubing over the braided lines and then use the heat shrink tubing to seal & secure it in place. This will help to keep the braided sheathing from shredding anything it comes in contact with, and help keep things pretty. I may even add some 1/2" split-loom tubing over the clear vinyl in high friction areas.
Yes, I'll get pics up. I've ordered the shrink tube so it will be the end of the week before I have any.
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Well, I had a chat with the guy that runs Applications Engineering for Baldwin today.
Some things I was told:
The B7039 full-flow for the 7.3 is rated at 25 microns, absolute.
The B164 bypass is rated at 15 microns absolute, and that translates to 3-5 microns nominal.
Anything less than 4 microns is, for all intents and purposes, unable to be measured.
Baldwin does not participate in the Micron Wars, but their performance reputation speaks for itself.
Though they no longer have the business of another company "that is more about marketing than testing", he assured me that there was a time that any differences in rated filtration ability would be caused by the paint color ONLY, as beneath that they were IDENTICAL. At the time, that other company was claiming 2 microns for theirs. That other company now has their filters vended to them by "another reputable manufacturer".
So, draw your own conclusions.
Pop
Some things I was told:
The B7039 full-flow for the 7.3 is rated at 25 microns, absolute.
The B164 bypass is rated at 15 microns absolute, and that translates to 3-5 microns nominal.
Anything less than 4 microns is, for all intents and purposes, unable to be measured.
Baldwin does not participate in the Micron Wars, but their performance reputation speaks for itself.
Though they no longer have the business of another company "that is more about marketing than testing", he assured me that there was a time that any differences in rated filtration ability would be caused by the paint color ONLY, as beneath that they were IDENTICAL. At the time, that other company was claiming 2 microns for theirs. That other company now has their filters vended to them by "another reputable manufacturer".
So, draw your own conclusions.
Pop
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My wife did work for a a large Baldwin distributor before going to work for NAPA. I knew Baldwin had a very good reputation in the large truck filter market. I am wondering if the Wix Gold filter at NAPA crossed over from those Baldwin numbers are just as good? I can buy Baldwin and also Fleetguard filters here locally too, but for obvious reasons I get the best pricing on NAPA (Wix Gold).
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Excellent information, Marv. I am always so amazed at the level of valuable information we can gain when we take the time to call and talk to a manufacturer's tech support group about their products. Sometimes, the information is scarrryyyy... but it is always helpful, even if it ends up pointing you in the direction of another vendor!
Snowboard season cometh..
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From: Gulf Coast of Florida
Excellent information, Marv. I am always so amazed at the level of valuable information we can gain when we take the time to call and talk to a manufacturer's tech support group about their products. Sometimes, the information is scarrryyyy... but it is always helpful, even if it ends up pointing you in the direction of another vendor!
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From: La La Land
The guys at Baldwin can, and do, go into that kind of detail, and they have the testing results to back them up. I don't think Eugene would be much of a challenge to them, as they, too, live in his world of detail.
You can imagine that CAT, Cummins, Detroit, etc. don't take information "on faith", but real-world testing data before giving their blessing to use with their engines.
I've just never needed the minutia, personally. If they tell me "three to five, nominal", I can believe them, and don't need the documentation.
I guess you could call that "on faith", but I've been using their products, on-and-off, for 45 years, so there's a history that underlies the faith.
Pop
You can imagine that CAT, Cummins, Detroit, etc. don't take information "on faith", but real-world testing data before giving their blessing to use with their engines.
I've just never needed the minutia, personally. If they tell me "three to five, nominal", I can believe them, and don't need the documentation.
I guess you could call that "on faith", but I've been using their products, on-and-off, for 45 years, so there's a history that underlies the faith.
Pop
Snowboard season cometh..
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From: Gulf Coast of Florida
Here they are, my "over-engineered" lines (thanks guys! LOL) but I think they look sweet, and with the clear vinyl tubing, I don't have to worry about the steel braiding rubbing through something.
<a href="http://s678.photobucket.com/albums/vv148/papadelogan/Nyx/?action=view¤t=IMG_2603.jpg" target="_blank"><img src="http://i678.photobucket.com/albums/vv148/papadelogan/Nyx/IMG_2603.jpg" border="0" alt="Oil Bypass Lines"></a>
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They're in place now, but it was 25* out, windy, and a friggin' pain in the butt to do but it's done, and I now be happy!! Time for a burrito!!
<a href="http://s678.photobucket.com/albums/vv148/papadelogan/Nyx/?action=view¤t=IMG_2603.jpg" target="_blank"><img src="http://i678.photobucket.com/albums/vv148/papadelogan/Nyx/IMG_2603.jpg" border="0" alt="Oil Bypass Lines"></a>
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They're in place now, but it was 25* out, windy, and a friggin' pain in the butt to do but it's done, and I now be happy!! Time for a burrito!!
Snowboard season cometh..
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From: Gulf Coast of Florida
The rest looks just like yours Marv, that's the only "tweak" I did was the vinyl tubing over the lines, and then the shrink tubing. I'm really pleased with how they came out & the fact that I don't have to worry about the stainless braiding sawing its way through something...
The clear vinyl hose cost less than $1/foot, and the shrink tubing was bought from Home Depot for ~$2 for three 4" long pieces of 1/2" diameter shrink tubing. An extra $10 is all it cost me. Well worth it in my book.
The clear vinyl hose cost less than $1/foot, and the shrink tubing was bought from Home Depot for ~$2 for three 4" long pieces of 1/2" diameter shrink tubing. An extra $10 is all it cost me. Well worth it in my book.
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From: Gulf Coast of Florida
That vinyl is pretty thick which is really nice, but have you thought about maybe adding some spiral wrap wire covering to your lines? With where you live I don't think your split-loom will break down too quickly, but there are (of course) varying grades of the stuff. The spiral wrap seems to hold up better than the "Home Depot" level of split-loom, but you can buy the polyethylene "automotive use rated" split-loom off ebay for a reasonable price.
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