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Old Jan 12, 2009 | 10:23 AM
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If you have headers and they are not rusted out I wouldn't go throwing away money on new ones.
The biggest issue on FEs is the restricted stock manifolds, my particular 390 is out of a mach 1 Stang, so it has the car(even worse) manifolds on it. Even so it was rated at 325 horse, coming from the factory with a four barrel a slightly larger cam and so on. By "warm" it has the Eddy carb, some higher compression pistons rods and a even fatter cam.

At this point the manifolds are killing me, I also wouldn't mind an aluminum intake, but we'll see.

As for running a 600 on yours since it is a 360, I don't think you'll have any issues.
 
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Old Jan 12, 2009 | 01:50 PM
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Originally Posted by 1Fordnatic
{snipped really cool stuff :}
I have never had a problem with fuel pressure on a Carter/Edelbrock.
The floats don't flood all the time like Holleys seem to do. No leaks on
a Carter either, as there are no gaskets below the fuel level. That's why
they are approved for marine use.
Really good points too. :)

The only problem I had with both Carters was a problem with stumbling as
you went from the low speed circuit to the main system. They were both
the same that way and it felt like the low speed circuit was cutting out too
soon or the main circuit was late. Never figured it out. :/

The first one was a "Bug Spray" and the second was a stock carburetor on
a '76 Plymouth Fury 318 with automatic.

Holley also made a "Bug Spray" and everyone claimed them to work great
and the Carters were junk. I fiNgured "oh yeah? I can fix it! :)" Ooops. :/

It's a cryin' shame too, the Carters look better on the inside than a Holley. ;)

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Old Jan 12, 2009 | 02:02 PM
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Edelbrock Performer Series Carburetor Calibration Kits $37.95 - $65.95 in Summit
 
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Old Jan 12, 2009 | 03:20 PM
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Originally Posted by Alvin in AZ
Really good points too.

The only problem I had with both Carters was a problem with stumbling as
you went from the low speed circuit to the main system. They were both
the same that way and it felt like the low speed circuit was cutting out too
soon or the main circuit was late. Never figured it out. :/

Alvin in AZ
That's another thing in the strip kit that I forgot. Different size squirters and pumps for the accelerator pumps. You can adjust the timing and amount of the squirt when you press the throttle. This is usually the best way to adjust the transition from idle to main circuit. You also adjust it via the linkage-moving the rod that runs the pump into different holes. I don't know if that would have helped with yours or not. I find carbs fun to play with, anyway!
 
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Old Jan 12, 2009 | 04:15 PM
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That's another thing in the strip kit that I forgot. Different size squirters and
pumps for the accelerator pumps. You can adjust the timing and amount of
the squirt when you press the throttle. This is usually the best way to adjust
the transition from idle to main circuit. You also adjust it via the linkage-
moving the rod that runs the pump into different holes. I don't know if that
would have helped with yours or not.
Cool. :)

That might have did the trick but somehow I believe the problem was the
carburetor acted like it was "too big" for the VW engine it was designed for.
It worked great if you just romped it but when using a dune buggy as a
"cheap Jeep" up in the mountains, romping it every time ain't so good. ;)

So then it comes to the "factory setup Carter" for the Fury. :/

I find carbs fun to play with, anyway!
What I'd really like to get my hands on is a book that explains the theory
and practice of emulsion tube holes! :) Ever run across anything like that?

Alvin in AZ
 
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Old Jan 12, 2009 | 07:18 PM
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Originally Posted by Alvin in AZ
Cool.




What I'd really like to get my hands on is a book that explains the theory
and practice of emulsion tube holes! Ever run across anything like that?

Alvin in AZ
That reminds me-I did have a really good book on tuning Carters-I had forgotten. I don't recall if it went over the emulsion tubes or not.
 
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Old Jan 12, 2009 | 08:10 PM
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So basically, ive gotten myself in way over my head and i should have just taken the damned thing to my mechanic. oh well.....ive been meaning to learn how to do this sort of thing myself. So once i get this thing out of the box, my first and biggest obstacle is going to be fuel pressure? The edelbrock is built for 5 lb/hr and my fuel pump is running 7?
 
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Old Jan 12, 2009 | 08:55 PM
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I don't think that you will have a problem with fuel pressure.
 
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Old Jan 12, 2009 | 08:59 PM
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Old Jan 13, 2009 | 08:12 PM
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I have a Holley 600 on my warmed up 390, and had to play with the jets to get it right. Now it turns the 33's just fine. Also changed secondary springs a couple times to get them open at the right time. If you were dumping that much gas into the motor, I would change the oil too. Prob kept a lot of oil from the cyl walls.
 
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Old Jan 13, 2009 | 08:14 PM
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Once bought a fuel reg at AutoZ**e, for about 20 bucks, but scrapped it long ago. I use a Holley elec pump, and its preset at 7 lbs.
 
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Old Jan 14, 2009 | 07:02 PM
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FINALLY got my parts last night about 8 pm. Took about an hour to switch the two out (SO much easier than i thought it would be) and so far she runs FANTASTIC. Obviously ive got some fine tuning to do, as i check fuel mileage and such, but at least it was a trouble free install. Next up...full tuneup and oil change, then new shocks.
 
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Old Jan 14, 2009 | 08:39 PM
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"air ( mixture of gases) changes faster than the gasoline (liquid)"
-read that somewhere good ;)

So you are cruising along nice and steady and suddenly you open the throttle
just a little and hold it in the new spot and...

...if it hesitates slightly then the slower to react gasoline catches up with the
-suddenly added air- to the existing air/fuel mixture it was too lean. See it? :)
The air/fuel mixture was worsened for a little bit.

...if it surges slightly then settles down it was too rich. The newly added air
mixed with the too rich mixture and gave you a boost of power because for
just an instant the air/fuel mixture was improved. :)

You can do the same thing cruising along at different speeds and also see
what it feels like when you slightly close the throttle then hold it.

Short burst of energy?
Slight hesitation?

Think about what's going on when you suddenly add or subtract a little air to
the mixture (existing condition) and it'll tell you if you're running rich or lean
or just right.

Please don't throw your old carburetor away ok? ;)
Sell it, give it away, clean it up and store it, anything but waste it, ok? :)

One of the best 2100's I ever found was in a dumpster in a brand new
"Holley box". Finding it was by shear chance, was waiting in the middle of
town near some apartments and needed to walk my Border Terrier.... ;)

Alvin in AZ
 
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Old Jan 14, 2009 | 10:05 PM
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not sure what your were going for there dude...sarcasm or just trying to give me info. im not a COMPLETE moron, you know. I had the adjustment bit figured out, thats not too hard. The Edelbrock is a much simpler seeming unit than that Holley. Speaking of the Holley, what SHOULD i do with it? try and rebuild it, then sell it? sell it as-is? donate it to Toys for Tots?
 
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Old Jan 15, 2009 | 02:59 PM
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not sure what your were going for there dude...sarcasm or just trying to
give me info.
What do you think I was trying to do?

im not a COMPLETE moron, you know.
Cool. :)
Glad we got that cleared up. {whew} LOL :)

I had the adjustment bit figured out, thats not too hard.
Oh, ok, sorry, since you couldn't fix a flooding carburetor, sorry, but I was
thinking you were clueless on carburetors, my mistake. :/

So how did you get so knowledgeable on carburetor adjusting all of a sudden?
Are there instructions with the new carburetor or what? ;)

Oh heck... that's what this is about...
Stupid ugly Gringo me! :/

I never bought a carburetor in my life that came with instructions! LOL :)

Maybe that's where I got the information I posted tho?
Can't remember where I read it, just thought it was a cool way to go about
adjusting the mixtures is all. :)

The Edelbrock is a much simpler seeming unit than that Holley.
Simple is good, if it works good for you.
Simple ain't good if it doesn't.

Speaking of the Holley, what SHOULD i do with it?
try and rebuild it, then sell it? sell it as-is?
donate it to Toys for Tots?
Wash it inside and out with soap and water, dry it and take it to a second
hand store. :)

Alvin in AZ
 
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