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Old Jan 5, 2009 | 12:58 PM
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Looking for a new starter. Right now my starter, with new batteries and all new cables, does not crank nearly as well as it once did.

Who makes a good one? Which ones have you guys had good luck with?
 
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Old Jan 5, 2009 | 02:30 PM
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These are supposed to be the best, I just ordered one and it should be here tomorrow I will post and let you know, once I get it installed.

eBay Motors: NEW FORD 6.9L & 7.3L DIESEL STARTER G/R REPL,6.9 / 7.3 (item 330298485947 end time Jan-10-09 17:47:08 PST)
 
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Old Jan 5, 2009 | 08:09 PM
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the starter for are idi should be turning at about 300 rpm
 
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Old Jan 6, 2009 | 10:03 AM
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If you get that Nippondenso starter, you will be using four letter words about the top bolt.

A Mitsubishi gear reduction is a much better starter, and you can see the top bolt.
 
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Old Jan 6, 2009 | 05:02 PM
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I installed it today (in the rain) and I thought it was a lot easier to install than that stinking Mitsubishi was, there was plenty more room to get a wrench in there and the starter fit much easier, and it really whirls the engine over.

I used a 1/4" drive ratchet 5 inch extension and 1/2" socket and it went really well. I would have gotten the truck started but right as I started bleeding the lines it began pouring down and I decided to come inside.
 
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Old Jan 6, 2009 | 06:18 PM
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You did not get the starter in the picture then.
The top bolt on that starter is a wrench only top bolt.
 
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Old Jan 6, 2009 | 06:30 PM
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It is that exact starter, I can get a picture of it on the truck tomorrow, I used a 1/4" drive 1/2" socket that was really short with a 5 inch extension and it worked fine. I am pretty sure a 3/8" drive socket or even a taller 1/4" drive socket wouldn't have fit, but it worked great and was a really easy install, I have installed several mitsubishis and even a few of the older style direct drive starters and this was much much easier, the mitsubishi you almost have to fight it and have to get it turned just right to even fit it up in there and the older style is even worse.
 
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Old Jan 6, 2009 | 10:40 PM
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As you can see, there is nothing in the way of the bolts on the Mitsubishi.



The Nippondenso I had, there was no way you could have used an extension on the top bolt.
The motor was right in front of the top bolt hole.
The neck was so close to the bolt a 1/4" drive rachet and a short socket would not go on the bolt either.
Wrench only, and the frame only let you turn about 1/8 th turn at a time.

I looked again, I can see they turned the motor around some on them now.



Where the black line runs from top to bottom just to the right of the mounting flange is where you used to run into the motor at.
 
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Old Jan 6, 2009 | 11:19 PM
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They must have changed the starter since you had one then because I bought the exact one from that auction and it looks identical to that picture and it was a very easy install with a socket, extension and ratchet.

I installed the bottom two bolts and had them holding it, then I stuck my hand up to the top bolt hole and started the bolt maybe a thread or two, it was difficult by hand to turn it much , then I took the socket, extension and ratchet and tightened it down with no trouble, it was a tight fit though because after I go it tightened the socket got stuck between the head of the bolt and the body of the starter, but a little wiggling and it came right loose.
 
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Old Jan 7, 2009 | 01:11 AM
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Originally Posted by 91f2504x4
They must have changed the starter since you had one then because I bought the exact one from that auction and it looks identical to that picture and it was a very easy install with a socket, extension and ratchet.

I installed the bottom two bolts and had them holding it, then I stuck my hand up to the top bolt hole and started the bolt maybe a thread or two, it was difficult by hand to turn it much , then I took the socket, extension and ratchet and tightened it down with no trouble, it was a tight fit though because after I go it tightened the socket got stuck between the head of the bolt and the body of the starter, but a little wiggling and it came right loose.
I took an ND out of mine and replaced it with a Mitsubishi. I don't remember having any trouble with the top bolts. Only took about 20-30 minutes to R&R.
Maybe they were revised.

Jason
 
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Old Jan 7, 2009 | 01:14 AM
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it should be real similar to mine on my 94 and i used a 3/8ths it wasnt too bad at all when you have done it before.last time it took me 10 minutes
 
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