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Old Dec 27, 2008 | 04:15 PM
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HPOP oil?

I would have thought that the engine oil was what lubricated the HPOP? can someone give me the easy skinny on what is up with the oil on the HPOP. Do the HPOP's come from ford oiled do they lose oil over time" i installed a new one 2 years ago, never put oil in it and haven't had issues yet......
 
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Old Dec 27, 2008 | 04:23 PM
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Why wouldnt it be lubed with the engine oil that passes through it?
 
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Old Dec 27, 2008 | 04:31 PM
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The HPOP is just a gear driven rotary pump that is lubricated by the same oil it pumps. Basically its a set of I thing 5 small pistons that are cam actuated by the rise and fall of a ramp, which basically pushes each piston up and down sucking in LP oil and focing it out under pressure. Just imagine a WWII rotary engine with piston standing up vice outward. The early 99's have a 15* ramp, while the 99.5 and up had a 17* ramp, more pressure, better fuel atomization...
 
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Old Dec 27, 2008 | 04:38 PM
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To answer your question, it is fed oil form the LPOP. But some folks like to change the extra quart or so of oil that's in there when they do their regular OCs. It doesn't drain when drain the rest, so that's why they suck it out and use that extra quart out of the gallon to fill it. It's also kind of convenient because then you don't have that pesky extra quart of oil left over if you buy 4 gallons.
 
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Old Dec 27, 2008 | 05:41 PM
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It's also kind of convenient because then you don't have that pesky extra quart of oil left over if you buy 4 gallons.
Pesky eh Joe?
 
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Old Dec 27, 2008 | 08:22 PM
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Originally Posted by mongo75
The HPOP is just a gear driven rotary pump that is lubricated by the same oil it pumps. Basically its a set of I thing 5 small pistons that are cam actuated by the rise and fall of a ramp, which basically pushes each piston up and down sucking in LP oil and focing it out under pressure. Just imagine a WWII rotary engine with piston standing up vice outward. The early 99's have a 15* ramp, while the 99.5 and up had a 17* ramp, more pressure, better fuel atomization...


Here, i hate to sound like a correct-it smartass, but ive taken one apart just to see how they work, and it's 7 pistons in the barrel, the barrel rotates with the pistons inside of it, against the fixed swashplate. The main engine lube pump pressure is what keeps the pistons up against the swashplate, also there are springs in the cups to hold them tight as well.. The oil inlet is blocked off as the piston passes BDC on its way up, and then the outlet port opens up at TDC, the volume of oil that can fit down in the cup of the piston plus the stroke of it, is what displaces the oil. It's cam driven correct, but at .85 of cam speed i believe, and the cam spins .5 of the crank. More volume with the same amount of flow=higher pressure

 
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Old Dec 27, 2008 | 08:27 PM
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Anything you dont know Kris?
 
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Old Dec 27, 2008 | 08:33 PM
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When my truck is back on the road?
 
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Old Dec 27, 2008 | 08:52 PM
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Originally Posted by strokin_it7.3
When my truck is back on the road?
That sucks man, still waiting on the turbo?
 
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Old Dec 27, 2008 | 08:54 PM
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Yup. should get there monday, and then make a new one out of my centersection if they dont have one that will fit my turbine and compressor housings.
 
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Old Dec 27, 2008 | 09:01 PM
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My Turbo's Bigger

Might want to change^^ this then, seeing that you dont have a turbo and all


Just messing with ya
 
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Old Dec 27, 2008 | 09:15 PM
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how much and how hard is it to trade up to a 17* hpop? Can you just swap a later one into the 98.9
 
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Old Dec 27, 2008 | 09:32 PM
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98.9?? LOL......

Yes, you can just swap a 17* pump into the early 99.
 
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Old Dec 27, 2008 | 09:35 PM
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Originally Posted by Izzy351
98.9?? LOL......

Yes, you can just swap a 17* pump into the early 99.
Yeah, early 99, I just get tired of typing it so I figured 98.9 got thepoint across any price idea? I'm on my iPhone and it's kind of hard to surf.
 
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Old Dec 27, 2008 | 09:39 PM
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I know EXACTLY what you mean.

You can find deals -- something like $400 +/-. Or you can go for semi-big oil for around $1300.
 
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