Notices

460 Running Temp?

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Dec 26, 2008 | 05:30 PM
  #1  
MustangMatt96GT's Avatar
MustangMatt96GT
Thread Starter
|
Posting Guru
Joined: Nov 2008
Posts: 1,138
Likes: 0
From: Lakewood, Colorado
460 Running Temp?

I put an aftermarket water temp gague on my truck... it goes to normal on the stock dash gague, but almost pegs the 250 Degree Autometer.

What is the normal operating temps of these trucks? It has no signs of over heating ethier.
 
Reply
Old Dec 26, 2008 | 09:40 PM
  #2  
460/F250's Avatar
460/F250
Freshman User
Joined: Aug 2008
Posts: 25
Likes: 0
From: New Baltimore MI
I'm not to sure about other 460's and what not. But i know in my truck i have an aftermarket gauge as well and it goes to about 200* then drops right back down to about 185*. So i'm guessing the T-stat in mine is probably a 195*.

All the other cars i've ever owned (oldsmobiles, few chevys, etc etc) have always ran about the same right about 195-200 IF it has a 195 stat in it.

I'd make sure you have the right amount of coolant, maybe check for leaks.
Also..check to see if your fan is spining...depending what you have on your truck..i've seen the clutch style fans stop working and they just sit there...not helping it cool down.

Last two things it could be...is either a faulty water pump, or your T stat is stuck closed.

Good luck

Justin
New Baltimore, Mi
 
Reply
Old Dec 26, 2008 | 09:44 PM
  #3  
MustangMatt96GT's Avatar
MustangMatt96GT
Thread Starter
|
Posting Guru
Joined: Nov 2008
Posts: 1,138
Likes: 0
From: Lakewood, Colorado
its got a new T stat in it... but i never thought of not enough coolant... i will go and check that... i did have it drained abotu a weekago to put new pushrods in it... Thanks!
 
Reply
Old Dec 27, 2008 | 03:02 AM
  #4  
Don S.'s Avatar
Don S.
More Turbo
Joined: Aug 2007
Posts: 555
Likes: 2
From: Washington state
Originally Posted by MustangMatt96GT
its got a new T stat in it... but i never thought of not enough coolant... i will go and check that... i did have it drained abotu a weekago to put new pushrods in it... Thanks!
Where is the sending unit loctaed on the engine for the autometer gage?
 
Reply
Old Dec 27, 2008 | 12:46 PM
  #5  
MustangMatt96GT's Avatar
MustangMatt96GT
Thread Starter
|
Posting Guru
Joined: Nov 2008
Posts: 1,138
Likes: 0
From: Lakewood, Colorado
I teed off the stock one, so the stock one is just up a little higher and the autometer is off to the side about an inch...


But i did put some more coolant in it, and no go on running cooler... Guess i will be trying to see if the fan is coming on.
 
Reply
Old Dec 27, 2008 | 06:28 PM
  #6  
Don S.'s Avatar
Don S.
More Turbo
Joined: Aug 2007
Posts: 555
Likes: 2
From: Washington state
Just a thought here but most sending units sensing portion is inserted in a spot where constant fluid flow passes the sensing element for the sending unit.

Just a WAG, but you may have created a pocket where there is little flow running across the sensing element. Yet your stock gage still reads the same after installing the new gage?

Personally there may be another spot to put the Autometer sending unit. Considering I don't know exactly what type of sending unit they use I can't tell you a whole lot more of what could be going on.

Did you have to buy the gage and then buy a seperate sending unit? Or did the Sending unit come with the gage? What model gage and sending unit?
 
Reply
Old Dec 28, 2008 | 12:01 AM
  #7  
MustangMatt96GT's Avatar
MustangMatt96GT
Thread Starter
|
Posting Guru
Joined: Nov 2008
Posts: 1,138
Likes: 0
From: Lakewood, Colorado
I took it out of my race car... its a cheap half sweep Ultra Light II water temp gauge... and where i have it put, Ill agree there would not be much coolant flow, and it would just be reading the "air" temp which of course is going to be higher... Maybe ill just put where the stock sending unit is suppost to go... Not like the stock gauge is useful anyway.

I also dont know if this is the correct sending unit now that i think about it... (i was playing in the snow with the truck tonight when i remember) but i have like 5 sending units and i know one is for a full sweep electrical temp gague... maybe i put the wrong one in, and then that would cause the high up reading too...

I will figure it out... I have put almost 400 miles on the truck the way it is... runs great! I love this thing!


Another thought would be a bad head gasket... but if im not mistaken, it would be drinking coolant like crazy and would have already overheated and spewed it everywhere... So thats not likely but i thought...
 
Reply
Old Dec 28, 2008 | 02:23 PM
  #8  
Don S.'s Avatar
Don S.
More Turbo
Joined: Aug 2007
Posts: 555
Likes: 2
From: Washington state
Easy way to find out what might be the right sending unit is to boil a pan of water and put the sending units in it an d hook up the gage to the sending units and see which ones read around 212 Degrees F. Cause that is the set temp for boiling water.

I say this because I am a calibration technichian and this is one method we use for testing some type of temperature equipment. Because a slush bath and boiling point of water are accurate constants.
 
Reply
FTE Stories

Ford Trucks for Ford Truck Enthusiasts

story-0

Top 10 Fords at 2026 Carlisle Ford Nationals

 Joe Kucinski
story-1

3 Best / 3 Worst Parts of Modern Ford Ownership

 Brett Foote
story-2

10 Amazing Upgrades That Solve Common Ford Truck Owner Headaches

 Pouria Savadkouei
story-3

Every 2026 Ford Engine Explained

 Brett Foote
story-4

10 Ugly Ford Trucks That We Still Kinda Love

 Joe Kucinski
story-5

10 Things Every Truck Owner NEEDS (2026 Edition)

 Michael S. Palmer
story-6

Rezvani's Latest Post-Apocalyptic Monster Is a Ford F-150 Raptor Underneath

 Verdad Gallardo
story-7

Top 10 Most Expensive Ford Trucks Ever Sold on Bring a Trailer

 Joe Kucinski
story-8

2027 Ford Super Duty Buyer's Guide (Every Model, Engine, & Package)

 Brett Foote
story-9

Top 10 Ford Truck Tragedies

 Joe Kucinski
Old Dec 28, 2008 | 07:36 PM
  #9  
MustangMatt96GT's Avatar
MustangMatt96GT
Thread Starter
|
Posting Guru
Joined: Nov 2008
Posts: 1,138
Likes: 0
From: Lakewood, Colorado
wel... ghoing to work today... i see steam coming from the passenger side of the truck hood... open it up and there it is... the Radiator hose has a crack in it... now i get to play with that for now... got it home... and am going to try and buy the hose right now...

And i agree completely on your boiling point and freezing points... they will and always be a constant as long as teh enviroment closed or the same... I will try that tommorow if i get ambitous.

Thanks
 
Reply
Old Jan 2, 2009 | 01:40 PM
  #10  
MustangMatt96GT's Avatar
MustangMatt96GT
Thread Starter
|
Posting Guru
Joined: Nov 2008
Posts: 1,138
Likes: 0
From: Lakewood, Colorado
Turns out i had a bad radiator... but the truck with out the leaking radiator still runs 240-250 degrees on my autometer... i think im just going to take out that gauge and use tehs tocekr...


n signs of over heating, so im just oging to keep driving it.
 
Reply
Old Jan 2, 2009 | 03:18 PM
  #11  
Bear 45/70's Avatar
Bear 45/70
Post Fiend
Joined: Mar 2004
Posts: 6,056
Likes: 8
From: Union, Washington
Go to Harbor Freight and buy and infared heat gun. They are cheap and tell you the true temp with just a point and pull the trigger.

The best way to go.
Harbor Freight Tools - Quality Tools at the Lowest Prices

Heres a cheap one like I keep in my truck.
Harbor Freight Tools - Quality Tools at the Lowest Prices
 
Reply
Old Jan 2, 2009 | 07:00 PM
  #12  
Don S.'s Avatar
Don S.
More Turbo
Joined: Aug 2007
Posts: 555
Likes: 2
From: Washington state
Originally Posted by Bear 45/70
Go to Harbor Freight and buy and infared heat gun. They are cheap and tell you the true temp with just a point and pull the trigger.

The best way to go.
Harbor Freight Tools - Quality Tools at the Lowest Prices

Heres a cheap one like I keep in my truck.
Harbor Freight Tools - Quality Tools at the Lowest Prices

Just a FYI to those that use and are thinking of using these types of thermometers. They are good for finding temperature variances, but are not as accurate as some would think. Especially when used incorrectly, take it from me I calibrate these types of equipment on a daily basis, and these are far from being as accurate as everone thinks.

They do serve a purpose and can still be very useful, you just need to know the limitations of the equipment. Like the distance to spot ratio. On the gun it's 8:1. So 8" from the target you'll have a spot area of 1". 16" and it incrases to a 2" spot etc. etc. And there is a focal lenth on the spot, usually the manual dipict this in a picture.

Also most of those guns are pre-set with a emissivity setting of 0.95, which is usally good for some metal unpolished metals, but the reading can be vastly altered when shooting and object that isn't close to the same emissivity.

Angle also plays a role in reading accuracy, and just what you are trying to read. Remember these are Non-Contact "Surface" infrared thermometers. and the temperature of say exhaust gases will differe from the actual header temp. As will teh radiator surface temp will differ from actual coolent temperature.

That and thermal Conduction, Convection, and Radiation are three pricipals of thermal dynamics that each work differently.

Now for better detailed explination you can find some info on Raytek's website.
 
Reply
Old Jan 2, 2009 | 07:29 PM
  #13  
Bear 45/70's Avatar
Bear 45/70
Post Fiend
Joined: Mar 2004
Posts: 6,056
Likes: 8
From: Union, Washington
I just stuff the muzzle of the thing against whatever I want to measure the temp of. Then there is no spread problem as the cone is way less than a 1/4" of an inch in diameter. I also calibrate the thing against the wife's high dollar candy thermometer, so I know how far it is off.
 
Reply
Old Jan 2, 2009 | 08:23 PM
  #14  
MustangMatt96GT's Avatar
MustangMatt96GT
Thread Starter
|
Posting Guru
Joined: Nov 2008
Posts: 1,138
Likes: 0
From: Lakewood, Colorado
I think im just going to take the autometer gauge out... runs N-O on the stock gauge... ill just use that...
 
Reply
Old Jan 3, 2009 | 05:14 AM
  #15  
Don S.'s Avatar
Don S.
More Turbo
Joined: Aug 2007
Posts: 555
Likes: 2
From: Washington state
Originally Posted by Bear 45/70
I just stuff the muzzle of the thing against whatever I want to measure the temp of. Then there is no spread problem as the cone is way less than a 1/4" of an inch in diameter. I also calibrate the thing against the wife's high dollar candy thermometer, so I know how far it is off.

Well that isn't nessessarily the most accurate way to measure temp using the things as the diffuser lens isn't a 1/4 of an inch. That isn't how it is designed to work I have calibrated a wide array of manufactures Infrared thermometers from Fluke, to Raytek, to 3M, to Whal products. I used calibrated black bodies. Using them at too close a distance can give you erroniously higher readings than at the suggested distance, and vice versa using them at a further distance they can give you erroniously lower readings to far away from the target. As a larger spot will average the temperature of the whole spot.

Again I am not saying they are complete crap that to get good repeatable readings it is key to use them in properly and in a the proper evironment. cause ambient temperature of where they are being used can give bad readings like the cooler or hotter outside temperatures will skew the readings.

Also contaminents on the lenses can skew the readings. I have had units fail calibration, then clean the lens and have them read in tolerance due to contaminents.
 
Reply



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 01:16 PM.

story-0
Top 10 Fords at 2026 Carlisle Ford Nationals

Slideshow: Top 10 Fords at 2026 Ford Nationals

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-06-09 11:10:08


VIEW MORE
story-1
3 Best / 3 Worst Parts of Modern Ford Ownership

Based on years of owning multiple modern Ford products.

By Brett Foote | 2026-06-09 10:53:36


VIEW MORE
story-2
10 Amazing Upgrades That Solve Common Ford Truck Owner Headaches

SPONSORED: From muddy boots to rain-soaked cargo, these upgrades address some of the most common frustrations Ford truck owners face every day.

By Pouria Savadkouei | 2026-06-08 18:50:34


VIEW MORE
story-3
Every 2026 Ford Engine Explained

Here's everything you need to know about every Ford engine available for the 2026 model year.

By Brett Foote | 2026-06-05 12:58:01


VIEW MORE
story-4
10 Ugly Ford Trucks That We Still Kinda Love

Slideshow: 10 ugly Ford trucks that we still kinda love.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-06-03 09:51:16


VIEW MORE
story-5
10 Things Every Truck Owner NEEDS (2026 Edition)

Slideshow: the best gifts for dads & grads

By Michael S. Palmer | 2026-06-03 15:43:58


VIEW MORE
story-6
Rezvani's Latest Post-Apocalyptic Monster Is a Ford F-150 Raptor Underneath

Slideshow: Called the Fortress, the 850-horsepower pickup combines Raptor underpinnings with military-inspired features, survival equipment, and a starting price of $285,000.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-06-03 11:38:36


VIEW MORE
story-7
Top 10 Most Expensive Ford Trucks Ever Sold on Bring a Trailer

Slideshow: 10 most expensive Ford trucks ever sold on Bring a Trailer.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-05-27 16:24:34


VIEW MORE
story-8
2027 Ford Super Duty Buyer's Guide (Every Model, Engine, & Package)

Here's everything that has changed for the latest model year.

By Brett Foote | 2026-05-27 16:17:28


VIEW MORE
story-9
Top 10 Ford Truck Tragedies

Slideshow: Top 10 Ford truck tragedies.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-05-18 19:34:33


VIEW MORE