Cam and header Question
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Cargo Master
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From: Elyria, OH
Cam and header Question
I was wanting to know the best combo for low to midrange torque. I'll be going through with the swap this summer and want to look at some prices so I know how much i need to save for. I want long tube headers and a good cam, just dont know what kind yet... Would like to keep stock computer, so nothing too extreme. Im also hoping that these two upgrades will help out a little with fuel consumption. All opinions welcome.
Vehicle Specs:
1989 F250
351w FI w/ C6
4.10 gears
31,000 org. miles
FIPK K&N intake
GAS hogg (6 mpg, 7.5 highway)
Vehicle Specs:
1989 F250
351w FI w/ C6
4.10 gears
31,000 org. miles
FIPK K&N intake
GAS hogg (6 mpg, 7.5 highway)
Tuned
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crane cam in my sig. I just finished putting it in last weekend. Made one heck of an improvement. I highly reccomend it as its one of the few cams that will work with the stock speed density system.
Though the new cam is definately NOT helping my truck with fuel consumption, having that extra power under my foot is too much for me. The last couple days I have been driving around like the dumb teenager i am because i cant keep my foot out of it.
Though the new cam is definately NOT helping my truck with fuel consumption, having that extra power under my foot is too much for me. The last couple days I have been driving around like the dumb teenager i am because i cant keep my foot out of it.
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Cargo Master
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Yeah, i didnt think it would help much. I still want this to be my first project truck, regaurdless. I'll be pulling alot of heavy loads for work next summer and i want the extra power to help out.
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Cargo Master
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As i have never done this before, i would like to know exactly what parts i will need (lifters, rocker arms, any gaskets, etc.) and the best way to go about removeing the old cam. I want to know now, so i can plan for the best time to do the swap, where i dnt need the truck for awhile during the summer. When i start the swap, ill make a new thread and post any questions that i may have. Thanks
pedant
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How many miles on your truck?
I assume you're going no further than just minimum for the the swap?
Timing chain set.
Front seal (and a sleeve if the damper is grooved)
Possibly a waterpump (since it's inexpensive, and the old one is already off.)
Maybe hoses too, since you'll have to yank the rad if you're doing it in the truck.
Buy cam, lube and lifters as a set! Forget about pushrods and rockers unless they look bad.
Most gasket companies sell a "cam" set with intake, valve cover, timing case, and waterpump gaskets together.
I like Victor Reinz brand, some like Fel-Pro.
Coolant, break in oil and filter, fresh oil and filter, new belt. (or belts)
Don't forget silicone for the end seals and anything that goes into water...
I assume you're going no further than just minimum for the the swap?
Timing chain set.
Front seal (and a sleeve if the damper is grooved)
Possibly a waterpump (since it's inexpensive, and the old one is already off.)
Maybe hoses too, since you'll have to yank the rad if you're doing it in the truck.
Buy cam, lube and lifters as a set! Forget about pushrods and rockers unless they look bad.
Most gasket companies sell a "cam" set with intake, valve cover, timing case, and waterpump gaskets together.
I like Victor Reinz brand, some like Fel-Pro.
Coolant, break in oil and filter, fresh oil and filter, new belt. (or belts)
Don't forget silicone for the end seals and anything that goes into water...
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Cargo Master
Joined: Oct 2008
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From: Elyria, OH
How many miles on your truck?
I assume you're going no further than just minimum for the the swap?
Timing chain set.
Front seal (and a sleeve if the damper is grooved)
Possibly a waterpump (since it's inexpensive, and the old one is already off.)
Maybe hoses too, since you'll have to yank the rad if you're doing it in the truck.
Buy cam, lube and lifters as a set! Forget about pushrods and rockers unless they look bad.
Most gasket companies sell a "cam" set with intake, valve cover, timing case, and waterpump gaskets together.
I like Victor Reinz brand, some like Fel-Pro.
Coolant, break in oil and filter, fresh oil and filter, new belt. (or belts)
Don't forget silicone for the end seals and anything that goes into water...
I assume you're going no further than just minimum for the the swap?
Timing chain set.
Front seal (and a sleeve if the damper is grooved)
Possibly a waterpump (since it's inexpensive, and the old one is already off.)
Maybe hoses too, since you'll have to yank the rad if you're doing it in the truck.
Buy cam, lube and lifters as a set! Forget about pushrods and rockers unless they look bad.
Most gasket companies sell a "cam" set with intake, valve cover, timing case, and waterpump gaskets together.
I like Victor Reinz brand, some like Fel-Pro.
Coolant, break in oil and filter, fresh oil and filter, new belt. (or belts)
Don't forget silicone for the end seals and anything that goes into water...
Thanks for the info ArdWrknTrk.
Oh! there is 31000 orig miles on the motor.. forgot to answer your question. lol
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pedant
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From: EXTREME southwest CT
Ill probably be taking the motor out to where i can work on it easier and am able to put on the header and new gaskets without much difficulty. ill have between $300-600 for anything i need, but im sure i can hit up the old man if i need more cash!! I want a quality cam that will produce a lot of power, but won't affect the computer. Also, just curious, how many horses/torque does a stock 351w make, and how much will these numbers increase with the new cam and headers?
Thanks for the info ArdWrknTrk.
Oh! there is 31000 orig miles on the motor.. forgot to answer your question. lol
Thanks for the info ArdWrknTrk.
Oh! there is 31000 orig miles on the motor.. forgot to answer your question. lol
Which headers are you thinking of using?
Since you're pulling the engine you might consider replacing the motor mounts too, if they look at all questionable.
(the rubber is already 20 years old and they're way easier while it's out)
If the engine's at all greasy or dirty try and get it steam cleaned before you pull it.
It will be a LOT nicer to work like a gentleman.
I keep forgetting you have only 31k... :doh:
The timing chain might be ok but If it were me I'd still replace it if I intended to keep the truck.
The gaskets and headache alone cost more than a basic double roller set from Cloyes.
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Tuned
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This may help you. I did this with very little expierience, i had to ask questions for everything. If you need any help I still have everything fresh in my mind and i can tell you the things i wish i had know before pulling stuff apart.
https://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/7...ap-thread.html
https://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/7...ap-thread.html
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Cargo Master
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This may help you. I did this with very little expierience, i had to ask questions for everything. If you need any help I still have everything fresh in my mind and i can tell you the things i wish i had know before pulling stuff apart.
https://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/7...ap-thread.html
https://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/7...ap-thread.html