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Old Dec 21, 2008 | 02:55 PM
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How To: Replace 4x4 Locked Hubs

My passenger side is hard to turn by hand. I pulled it off and cleaned it out and it's a little better. Not sure if I put it back on right though. When I pull the cover off, I have two metal handles or springs. Does this come out? What are the proper steps in assembly? If this comes out, I would like to grease it up as well. Sorry I am a noob when it comes to hubs.
 
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Old Dec 21, 2008 | 03:03 PM
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Didn't I post this for you already somewhere?
Perhaps not, here goes:
Notice page 9 for internal style hubs;
http://www2.dana.com/pdf/5330.pdf
 
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Old Dec 21, 2008 | 03:16 PM
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Originally Posted by 75F350
Didn't I post this for you already somewhere?
Perhaps not, here goes:
Notice page 9 for internal style hubs;
http://www2.dana.com/pdf/5330.pdf
I don't see where it explains how to take out the actual hub. I have the cover off, now what?
 
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Old Dec 21, 2008 | 03:38 PM
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Take the snap ring off of the axle shaft and the one off of the outer side of the hub and pull it out. Just put it back they way it came off. It pretty simple just that little outer ring can be a pain in the azz.
 
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Old Dec 21, 2008 | 03:47 PM
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Originally Posted by pinkpanther
Take the snap ring off of the axle shaft and the one off of the outer side of the hub and pull it out. Just put it back they way it came off. It pretty simple just that little outer ring can be a pain in the azz.

If those handles move, it's okay? What all do I need to grease? Also, I noticed there was some silocone sealing the hub. Is this necessary? What do I need to remove the ring?
 
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Old Dec 21, 2008 | 04:11 PM
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A pick set or two small screwdrivers. Start by finding the end of the ring. Lift the end with one tool, and pry it away from the grove. Use the second toll to hold the ring from fallin g back into the groove. Much like mounting a tire, only backwards. The opposite will be true for installation.
As for the smaller snap ring on the axle stub shaft, you will need a pair of snap ring pliers.
You may be able to fight these off without, but it will make life sooooo much easier with the correct tools. You should also be looking into the bearings if you are gonna take this down that far. Not much more and you can have the entire hub off. Serviceing your bearings is probably something that should be done anyway. Your sticking lockout is a result of lack of maintenance, and there is no telling how long it has been since the bearings have been serviced.
This problem is a reactive solution to an existing problem, and you do not want to wait for a problem in the bearing to occur. You should be pro active in preventative maintenance.
SHould you have a bearing failure, you will undoubtedly ruin the hub and the splindle. This can be prevented, and should be addressed.

RTV is used to seal the hub assembly to prevent water from entering. This is a shadetree attempt to repair a broken o-ring. The proper 0-ring does a pretty good job of sealing the outer ring. You should also look to see what the condition of the ring is on the dial iteslf. This might also be wasted.
 
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Old Dec 21, 2008 | 04:17 PM
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Originally Posted by 75F350
A pick set or two small screwdrivers. Start by finding the end of the ring. Lift the end with one tool, and pry it away from the grove. Use the second toll to hold the ring from fallin g back into the groove. Much like mounting a tire, only backwards. The opposite will be true for installation.
As for the smaller snap ring on the axle stub shaft, you will need a pair of snap ring pliers.
You may be able to fight these off without, but it will make life sooooo much easier with the correct tools. You should also be looking into the bearings if you are gonna take this down that far. Not much more and you can have the entire hub off. Serviceing your bearings is probably something that should be done anyway. Your sticking lockout is a result of lack of maintenance, and there is no telling how long it has been since the bearings have been serviced.
This problem is a reactive solution to an existing problem, and you do not want to wait for a problem in the bearing to occur. You should be pro active in preventative maintenance.
SHould you have a bearing failure, you will undoubtedly ruin the hub and the splindle. This can be prevented, and should be addressed.

RTV is used to seal the hub assembly to prevent water from entering. This is a shadetree attempt to repair a broken o-ring. The proper 0-ring does a pretty good job of sealing the outer ring. You should also look to see what the condition of the ring is on the dial iteslf. This might also be wasted.

Where exactly is the bearing? What do I need to do to it?
 
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Old Dec 22, 2008 | 12:01 AM
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If you refer to the link above you will notice that there are two locking nuts. One sets the tension on the outer bearing, and the other locks it down and prevents this from backing off.
You will need a special socket to remove these. These sockets can be purchased at your local parts store. While you are there, pick up a book / repair manual on your truck. It will have the illistrations that you are looking for.
 
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Old Dec 22, 2008 | 09:51 AM
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Originally Posted by 75F350
If you refer to the link above you will notice that there are two locking nuts. One sets the tension on the outer bearing, and the other locks it down and prevents this from backing off.
You will need a special socket to remove these. These sockets can be purchased at your local parts store. While you are there, pick up a book / repair manual on your truck. It will have the illistrations that you are looking for.
I have the cover off. I don't even see a gasket. I see a possible ring though. It's may 1mm thick from what I can see and I don't see any holes to attach the pin tool to to remove it. I can get you pictures as soon as my batteries charge.
 
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That's the one you have to pry out with a pick and tiny screwdriver.
 
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Old Dec 22, 2008 | 02:02 PM
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There are some good pictures of a front hub on here in the articles section in transmission/axel under Dana 44 front axle shaft u-joint replacement. Here is the link if it works. https://www.ford-trucks.com/article/...lacement_.html
 
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Old Dec 22, 2008 | 03:53 PM
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There are some good pictures of a front hub on here in the articles section in transmission/axel under Dana 44 front axle shaft u-joint replacement. Here is the link if it works. https://www.ford-trucks.com/article/...lacement_.html

Here's what I have:

Here is the hub on:
[img]ftp://mail.nextgenfilms.com/My%2078%.../hub%20001.jpg[/img]

When I pull it off, this is what I have. No gasket?

[img]ftp://mail.nextgenfilms.com/My%2078%.../hub%20004.jpg[/img]

Here's where I cleaned it out a bit. I see no ring, or it's super tiny.
[img]ftp://mail.nextgenfilms.com/My%2078%.../hub%20007.jpg[/img]

Do these two handles need to be pushed in when I put it back together? How do you get this thing out? What am I missing?
 
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