6spd clutch assembly replacement
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Tuned
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From: Webster, Texas
6spd clutch assembly replacement
Well, my truck is back in the shop for megabucks repairs for the second or is it the third time this year. My wife has really had it (I've kind of had with her as well). My clutch went out with 130K on it and these guys want $1500 to replace the entire assembly: Pilot bearing, clutch plate, flywheel etc. They called back later and said that the front main seal/bearing of the trans. was also leaking and would be an additional $225. So with tax we are looking at like $2000. Probably about twice what I had anticipated. I think its about evenly split between parts and labor. How should I deal with this. They have a $450 estimate fee and I have a "free" vehicle from Enterprise. My truck has really become somewhat of a money pit just when I got it paid off and getting ahead some.
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Tuned
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Its probably too late now. They have already ordered the parts. I was worried about getting stuck with my family. I wish I new of more reputable places here. Its not unusual for me to get shafted on that truck where ever. A fuel system problem cost about the same for me to correct this summer in Wy while we were on the way to visit Wa. This seems to be the way though. Whenever I get a vehicle paid off, I begin paying to rebuild it.
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For real you could deff. do that yourself for a helll of a lot cheaper, look to see how much a new clutch assembly is, I dont know why they want to replace your flywheel unless the pilot bearing only comes with the flywheel, It should come out and you can drive a new one in there, you could get the service procedures somewere on the Net or maybe the haynes manuals. And you could take care of the seal why the clutch is out.
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Do it yourself, you'll be glad you did.
I did the replacement last winter in less than a day in my own garage with minimal help. I was suprised how easy they come out, (mines a 4X4). Rent a tranny jack for sure, these trannys are heavy & awkward & it took 2 of us to maneuver it back in place.
Good luck.
I did the replacement last winter in less than a day in my own garage with minimal help. I was suprised how easy they come out, (mines a 4X4). Rent a tranny jack for sure, these trannys are heavy & awkward & it took 2 of us to maneuver it back in place.
Good luck.
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Tuned
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I don't know how to do anything that involved but thanks. Its actually gotten much worse in fact. They now claim that the pilot shaft is bad and should not be reused. This is an additional $750 and I've lost count by now but its approaching $3000. Unbeleivable for a heavy duty truck that costs so much out of the showroom.
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I don't know how to do anything that involved but thanks. Its actually gotten much worse in fact. They now claim that the pilot shaft is bad and should not be reused. This is an additional $750 and I've lost count by now but its approaching $3000. Unbeleivable for a heavy duty truck that costs so much out of the showroom.
Get the Kevlar pilot bushing and install it in place of the pilot bearing. They can clean up the surface of the pilot shaft with some emory cloth. There will be grooves left behind from the pilot bearing eating away at the surface of the pilot shaft.
The grooves are a non-issue with the pilot BUSHING.
This text is copied and pasted directly from South Bend Clutch's web site.
This is our KEVLAR® pilot bushing that we have designed to replace the needle roller style bearing. The nylon KEVLAR® composite absorbs the vibration that the Ford diesels create. This bushing can also be used as a repair bushing to run with a scored input shaft thus saving dollars on the cost of a new input shaft.
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Fleet Owner
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Here is another page that explains the properties of Kevlar.
It gives a good explanation for why they use it for this application.
What is Kevlar?
It gives a good explanation for why they use it for this application.
What is Kevlar?
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Thanks alot for the info. I called the guy immediately with this info and he said that the shaft was too badly damaged to reuse even with the bushing. He could not warranty the work this way. I told him to go ahead with the original plan.
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But I can say for 90% sure that the Kevlar bushing is all you need. But it is only 90%.
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From: Damon (South East Texas)
NO NO NO!!!
Get the Kevlar pilot bushing and install it in place of the pilot bearing. They can clean up the surface of the pilot shaft with some emory cloth. There will be grooves left behind from the pilot bearing eating away at the surface of the pilot shaft.
The grooves are a non-issue with the pilot BUSHING.
This text is copied and pasted directly from South Bend Clutch's web site.
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Get the Kevlar pilot bushing and install it in place of the pilot bearing. They can clean up the surface of the pilot shaft with some emory cloth. There will be grooves left behind from the pilot bearing eating away at the surface of the pilot shaft.
The grooves are a non-issue with the pilot BUSHING.
This text is copied and pasted directly from South Bend Clutch's web site.
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Tuned
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From: Webster, Texas
Well unfortunately Dan, Seattle seems to be the only place I haven't been stuck. Actually I had to go to the dealer in Bellingham to fix my emergency brake cable and stayed at Birch Bay. I tried to direct him to that website and he said we could discuss it Mon morning but not being an expert like you all I am at a disadvantage.
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Well unfortunately Dan, Seattle seems to be the only place I haven't been stuck. Actually I had to go to the dealer in Bellingham to fix my emergency brake cable and stayed at Birch Bay. I tried to direct him to that website and he said we could discuss it Mon morning but not being an expert like you all I am at a disadvantage.
He may not like it at first, but after you have directed him to get the Kevlar bushing, install it, and then he sees that the repair is successful, he may be a convert. I have been a repair technician for nearly 30 years and I am still learning things every day. Even on vehicle models that I have been working on for 20+ years. Nobody is too old to learn.
Show him this thread too, if you want.
I am running the same setup, Kevlar bushing and a LUK replacement clutch.