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Old Dec 16, 2008 | 09:16 PM
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HFCM will not Drain

WIF came on this morning. Came home to drain it and nothing drains out. There isn't any fuel, water nothing. The truck runs fine and the WIF does not come on right away and will also go off on its own. I know sensors can go bad but why doesn't the HFCM drain?? Also, the weather here in western Washington has been in the teens and twenties, but there is supposed to be a heater in the module so gelling shouldnt be an issue. I'm stumped. Any help out there would be appreciated.
 
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Old Dec 16, 2008 | 09:26 PM
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If it runs good then try a double dose of winter additive, water may be frozen. How long are your daily trips? Maybe not long enough to thaw the water in the HFCM.
 
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Old Dec 16, 2008 | 09:33 PM
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My daily commute is only 5 or 6 miles and that occurred to me. So I drove around 15 miles to bring everything up to temp. and still nothing drained. I have concerns about driving much, I don't want to ruin an injector.
 
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Old Dec 16, 2008 | 09:48 PM
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Try heating your drain valve up with a hair dryer for awhile and see if anything flows. It also could be some algae/sludge that is in the lines - can you get a wire in there to see if that helps clear it?
 
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Old Dec 16, 2008 | 09:51 PM
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I considered heating the module but did not know how safe using a heat gun or hair dryer would be.
 
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Old Dec 16, 2008 | 09:56 PM
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It should be fine - just make sure you have the valve closed and do it at an angle so that if something does break loose (or open up) it does not pour out on the heat gun/hair dryer. Probably should not do it if you smell vapors, but it sounds like that isn't a problem.

One thought is that if you bought your 2006 after July 14th 2006, you have a complimentary 5yr/60k warranty. You may be covered under that. If you think you may be covered, the dealership can print out your Oasis report and it should be on that.
 
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Old Dec 16, 2008 | 10:02 PM
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I thought it was a 3yr/36000mile warranty bumper to bumper and then 5yr/100000 on the engine.
 
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Old Dec 16, 2008 | 10:07 PM
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It is, but all 2006's after July 14, 2006 have a complimentary 5 yr / 60k powertrain warranty that they seem to keep secret. I have verified that I have it through my OASIS report. I said "bought", but let me check to verify that it is off of purchase date and not manufacture date. Either way, the magic date is July 14th.

Edit - Here it is:

5-year/60,000-mile powertrain limited warranty.*

This warranty provides coverage for the engine, transmission and more. It includes no deductibles for repairs, and the warranty is fully transferable to future owners at no cost. You will also receive complimentary roadside assistance for the entire warranty period, including towing, fuel-fill and lock-out services.

The 5-year/60,000-mile powertrain limited warranty is part of our commitment to deliver more standard safety equipment, more advanced technology, more value, more enjoyment, and most of all, more satisfaction from all our vehicles.

*F-Series (up to F-550) diesel engine warranty coverage is 5 years/100,000 miles. A 2006 Model Year Ford vehicle sold on or after July 14, 2006 will be covered by a complimentary 5year/60,000 Mile Ford ESP PowertrainCARE extended service contract with a $100 deductible. For 2007 Model Year Ford products the warranty is fully transferable with no deductible.
 

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Old Dec 16, 2008 | 10:21 PM
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You never cease to amaze me bismic. That is some great info!
 
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Old Dec 16, 2008 | 10:22 PM
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Thanks Mark, I will have to have an Oasis run as I purchased mine Oct 2006.
 
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Old Dec 16, 2008 | 10:32 PM
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You are more than welcome. Why don't you post your signature - and maybe even a picture (I like Wedgewood blue).

Oh yeah - I also had my dealership read the OASIS report in front of me and verify that the warranty was applied to my truck so that there would be no question in the future. I knew it was, but I wanted to have their verbal assurance - I guess I am just a little less than trusting some times. You used to be able to get the information that I posted from a Ford website. Now, the link no longer works ......... hmmm. Nevertheless - they made the committment and I have it on my OASIS.

Also, personally, I would get rid of the nipple and petcock arrangement - I feel that it is just a dead leg (even though it is short) where junk can build up. The modified drain plug is more reliable. One word on that though - diesel fuel is bad about swelling o-rings. Mine just failed (torn up), but I used the o-ring from the original plug. If you go back to a plug (any plug) be sure not to tighten it too much - just hand tight or a hair more.
 
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Old Dec 16, 2008 | 10:51 PM
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I appreciate the help. I am not sure about how to post pics in the signature.
 
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Old Dec 16, 2008 | 10:52 PM
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Post 6 more times I think.
 
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Old Dec 16, 2008 | 11:02 PM
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Thanx guys for all the input. I will have to attack this problem this weekend as lying in the snow covered gravel drive is less appealing when it is dark and 24 degrees.
 
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Old Dec 17, 2008 | 07:27 AM
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Sounds like there is sludge on the sensor face giving you a false reading. This can happen anytime of the year, happened to me this past summer. I had the sensor replaced and no more false readings.
 
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