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Old Dec 14, 2008 | 08:31 PM
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Sand blast or wire brush frame?

I will be taking my bed off next year for some repairs and wanted to clean up the frame with soem por15. Can I just wire brush this or does it have to be sand blasted? I don't want to remove the tank, wires, lines, if I don't have to. I want to do the front end of the truck if possible, but not sure if it is possible with the cab on. Ideas?
 
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Old Dec 14, 2008 | 09:29 PM
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POR says not to remove rust, so using a wire wheel in a grinder would be plenty. It will take off the loose scale, but not all the rust
 
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Old Dec 15, 2008 | 03:15 AM
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i wire wheeled mine. came very clean. and i used por 15, then i used a spray on undercoating on EVERYTHING after i got it together. not the rattle can stuff. the wire wheel got the frame clean to the point where it was totally smooth again. frame didn't even have any pitting except for the crossmember where the shocks mount. just be careful not to run too much pressure or youll be picking wires out of your skin.
 
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Old Dec 15, 2008 | 07:48 AM
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POR says not to remove rust, so using a wire wheel in a grinder would be plenty. It will take off the loose scale, but not all the rust
I was told I could brush this stuff on. I have a air compressor, what is the right tool I need for this? I'm assuming advance auto would have it. Also, what about the front? Can I get to it without taking it all apart?
 
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Old Dec 15, 2008 | 07:56 AM
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Just so you know, I used por and wasn't that impressed with it. Anyway, when I have done the front parts, I took the body off the frame. I think user garypettingil did his frame with the body still on.

The actual tool I use is a 4.5" angle grinder with a wire wheel attachment. It spins at 10,000 RPM, and you can get either flat or cup brushes for it. Also, they make bronze bristles as welll as steel, and also have twisted bristles. I prefer regular non-twisted steel wire brushes.
 
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Old Dec 15, 2008 | 08:15 AM
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Originally Posted by teds74ford
Just so you know, I used por and wasn't that impressed with it. Anyway, when I have done the front parts, I took the body off the frame. I think user garypettingil did his frame with the body still on.

The actual tool I use is a 4.5" angle grinder with a wire wheel attachment. It spins at 10,000 RPM, and you can get either flat or cup brushes for it. Also, they make bronze bristles as welll as steel, and also have twisted bristles. I prefer regular non-twisted steel wire brushes.

Thanks! What do you prefer over POR15?
 
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Old Dec 15, 2008 | 10:30 AM
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I used a knotted wire wheel on a 4 1/2" angle grinder.

It's the bee's knees when it comes to removing paint, rust and all around light polishing.

Josh
 
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Old Dec 15, 2008 | 11:05 AM
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Originally Posted by teds74ford
Just so you know, I used POR and wasn't that impressed with it. Anyway, when I have done the front parts, I took the body off the frame. I think user garypettingil did his frame with the body still on.

The actual tool I use is a 4.5" angle grinder with a wire wheel attachment. It spins at 10,000 RPM, and you can get either flat or cup brushes for it. Also, they make bronze bristles as well as steel, and also have twisted bristles. I prefer regular non-twisted steel wire brushes.
Yea, I did. I was on my second 4.5" angle grinder by the time I finished the project. If you use an angle grinder I would highly recommend the use of a decent respirator. Otherwise you are going to be breathing a lot of iron dust. How you go about accessing everything and cleaning everything up depends a lot on the amount of space you have to work within. I have the space of a long single car parking spot in my garage so things happened in stages. You can look in my galley and get an idea. The POR-15 is still there and holding up very well. The only reason I would dis the product would be for the preparation process. Lot of time consuming work. There are a lot of new products on the market since I started my project and some of them might not be as labor intensive in the prep work.
 
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Originally Posted by garypettengill
Yea, I did. I was on my second 4.5" angle grinder by the time I finished the project. If you use an angle grinder I would highly recommend the use of a decent respirator. Otherwise you are going to be breathing a lot of iron dust. How you go about accessing everything and cleaning everything up depends a lot on the amount of space you have to work within. I have the space of a long single car parking spot in my garage so things happened in stages. You can look in my galley and get an idea. The POR-15 is still there and holding up very well. The only reason I would dis the product would be for the preparation process. Lot of time consuming work. There are a lot of new products on the market since I started my project and some of them might not be as labor intensive in the prep work.
Like what? Price differences?
 
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Check here for some discussion.
 
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Myself, I went the obsessive/compulsive route, and disassembled the truck completely, and took the frame to the blaster/powdercoater. Gotta say that it came out really well, but it wasn't a cheap endeavor. Had the powdercoat done in a sort of metallic hammered finish, which looks really good, but would be nearly impossible to touch up later after the truck is assembled. Ah well, I don't plan on having the frame get too dinged up any time soon.
 
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When I had the motor/trans out:
High pressure hose,oven cleaner,gunk.scrapper.wire brush.Had do this numerous times.Got all nice and clean.
 
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Old Dec 15, 2008 | 03:02 PM
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Originally Posted by 460me
When I had the motor/trans out:
High pressure hose,oven cleaner,gunk.scrapper.wire brush.Had do this numerous times.Got all nice and clean.
Did you just do the front? Could I just do the back and then do the front later when or if I ever pull the motor? could I do the dana 44 with it attached?
 
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Old Dec 15, 2008 | 03:25 PM
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I hate to admit it, but 10 years ago when I wire brushed my frame I used Rust-o-leum Hammerite finish. Just rolled and brushed it on, as it didn't thin out enough to spray.

After that dried I went over it with Rust-o-leum Satin Black. Still looks fairly good and the only areas that would be considered questionable I believe is from my lack of prep in those areas: didn't wire wheel it enough or remove the grease and grime good enough.

Josh
 
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Old Dec 15, 2008 | 09:17 PM
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you can do whatever you want. i started just doing under the bed of my truck, then the cab came off, and this spring the front clip is coming off when i pull the motor. the truck is together, but its done up to the front cab mounts. i like the way the por 15 turned out, but man was it a pain to work with. cant get it on ANYTHING!
 
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