Schaeffers oil??????
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As mentioned earlier, the 9000 will help achieve full lube quicker on startup...which includes every startup, not just cold starts. That's why I ran it all year long. Protection on startup, yet no loss in protection during the heat.
I agree.
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I've done that myself (being cursed with a never-ceasing high level of curiosity and the engineer's tendency towards asking "why", "why not", "how much", etc.). That's the info I meant to get last night from my files, but I was really tired of being on the computer all day and had some other things to keep me busy. I think I may also have the info on my portable hard drive and will check here in a little while and post what I find.
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OK...
Here's a link to my originally posted Schaeffer analysis of the 9000 series oil. One sample was at the end of amy first run on the oil (12,400 miles), and the second was at 7,800 miles into my second run with NO fresh oil being added in those 7,800 miles.
https://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/7...king-good.html
One thing to notice, since we're talking about moly... the second run of oil is from a new formulation being used by Schaeffers for the CJ-4 spec, and it has a lower moly content than the first one by design. Even with that said, there's lots of moly in the oil.
Regarding TBN on the Amsoil DEO, the original, unused DEO tested with a 7.9 by OilGuard and a 9.1 by Blackstone. My Blackstone reports show that after just 6,800 miles, the DEO's TBN value had dropped from 9.1 to 6.9, and then it decreased further to a 5.7 at 11,700 miles.
As for the moly content, I also went back and looked at my old reports on the Amsoil DEO from both Blackstone and Oilguard, and BOTH labs reported a moly content of "0" on the fresh, unused oil sample (separate sample sent to each lab independently).
I still cannot lay my hands on the analysis I had run on the unused Schaeffer oil, but I'll keep looking for it.
Here's a link to my originally posted Schaeffer analysis of the 9000 series oil. One sample was at the end of amy first run on the oil (12,400 miles), and the second was at 7,800 miles into my second run with NO fresh oil being added in those 7,800 miles.
https://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/7...king-good.html
One thing to notice, since we're talking about moly... the second run of oil is from a new formulation being used by Schaeffers for the CJ-4 spec, and it has a lower moly content than the first one by design. Even with that said, there's lots of moly in the oil.
Regarding TBN on the Amsoil DEO, the original, unused DEO tested with a 7.9 by OilGuard and a 9.1 by Blackstone. My Blackstone reports show that after just 6,800 miles, the DEO's TBN value had dropped from 9.1 to 6.9, and then it decreased further to a 5.7 at 11,700 miles.
As for the moly content, I also went back and looked at my old reports on the Amsoil DEO from both Blackstone and Oilguard, and BOTH labs reported a moly content of "0" on the fresh, unused oil sample (separate sample sent to each lab independently).
I still cannot lay my hands on the analysis I had run on the unused Schaeffer oil, but I'll keep looking for it.
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From: Greeneville,TN
Moly content will be roughly the same in both. The 9000 should have the potential to last longer, because the base stock is a higher quality base stock synthetic. It's a Group V PAO in the 9000 that makes up the bulk of it's base stock.
Here is a kicker for you guys that are talking about moly. There are several types of moly's that are used in engine oils. And believe it or not not all of them preform the same functions. Schaeffers moly is primarly used as a antifriction additive. Most others like Delo use type of moly that is an anticorrosive agent. That info came from the horses mouth himself. So just because you see a moly in others oils doesn't mean they perform the same way.
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Sorry Jeremy all PAO oils are Group IV. Group V is the caught all for the other base stocks that are considered Synthetics.
Here is a kicker for you guys that are talking about moly. There are several types of moly's that are used in engine oils. And believe it or not not all of them preform the same functions. Schaeffers moly is primarly used as a antifriction additive. Most others like Delo use type of moly that is an anticorrosive agent. That info came from the horses mouth himself. So just because you see a moly in others oils doesn't mean they perform the same way.
Here is a kicker for you guys that are talking about moly. There are several types of moly's that are used in engine oils. And believe it or not not all of them preform the same functions. Schaeffers moly is primarly used as a antifriction additive. Most others like Delo use type of moly that is an anticorrosive agent. That info came from the horses mouth himself. So just because you see a moly in others oils doesn't mean they perform the same way.
Good point about the Moly as well. I had forgotten about that. I believe the moly in Delo also is used as an antioxidant.
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In Kansas, the wholesale price for the 9000 5W-40, from a rep, not including tax is $58.56 for a 12 quart case, $109.98 for a 6 gallon case, and $91.65 for a 5 gallon bucket. It's also available in larger quantities of 30 gallon drums, 55 gallon drums, and 275 & 500 gallon totes.
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From: Prosper, TX
Jeremy,
I would like to know if I can put Schaeffers #167 75w/140 gear oil in my front and rear axels. Will I need to put any of the ford additive in the rear axel or is there already some of that in the oil.
Thanks,
I would like to know if I can put Schaeffers #167 75w/140 gear oil in my front and rear axels. Will I need to put any of the ford additive in the rear axel or is there already some of that in the oil.
Thanks,