Notices
1973 - 1979 F-100 & Larger F-Series Trucks Discuss the Dentsides Ford Truck
Sponsored by:
Sponsored by: Moser

help with heater

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Nov 30, 2008 | 07:06 PM
  #1  
stewart460's Avatar
stewart460
Thread Starter
|
Senior User
Joined: Nov 2008
Posts: 162
Likes: 0
From: Lebanon
help with heater

I have an early 77 and i need some sort of deforst before snow i have a problem with what i have now it takes like 12-15 mins to defrost my windshield and it is never warm in there . I dont think it's the defrost that clears my window i think it's motor heat coming up right under the windshield.

So I need help in what i should buy , a new heater core for heat or some fan cause even off defrost and on floor i have nothing blowing . I'm sure its one of these that is causing the problem
 
Reply
Old Nov 30, 2008 | 07:23 PM
  #2  
mlcopen69's Avatar
mlcopen69
Junior User
Joined: Mar 2008
Posts: 72
Likes: 0
do u hear the fan running??????? if not then start there if it is running then its your heater core
 
Reply
Old Dec 2, 2008 | 01:51 PM
  #3  
Ranger Gord's Avatar
Ranger Gord
Mountain Pass
Joined: Jun 2006
Posts: 138
Likes: 0
From: Saskatoon, Sask
Is there a constant wet stain on the floor of your truck? Maybe the heater core is out of fluid.

Maybe its just a slow heating core. My dad had an 86 truck that used to take 15 minutes to even start defrosting the windows. By that time the trip was usually over.
 
Reply
Old Dec 2, 2008 | 09:04 PM
  #4  
Alvin in AZ's Avatar
Alvin in AZ
Postmaster
Joined: Aug 2005
Posts: 2,760
Likes: 8
From: Gadsden Purchase
After starting up the pickup get out there and feel the heater hoses
for hot water flow and temperature.

Alvin in AZ
 
Reply
Old Dec 2, 2008 | 09:26 PM
  #5  
fasthauler's Avatar
fasthauler
Fleet Mechanic
20 Year Member
Joined: Mar 2004
Posts: 1,398
Likes: 17
From: Hesperia, CA
Club FTE Gold Member
Sounds to me like your blower motor isn't running. The air blowing on the windshield should defrost it even without heat.
 
Reply
Old Dec 2, 2008 | 09:51 PM
  #6  
ramarado's Avatar
ramarado
Senior User
Joined: Mar 2007
Posts: 271
Likes: 1
From: arkadelphia, ar
While we're on this subject, how difficult is it to get to the heater core on a '73 w/o AC? Mine is stopped up I think. When I got the truck it leaked a tiny bit, but it heated the truck, not it doesn't heat or leak!
 
Reply
Old Dec 3, 2008 | 05:58 PM
  #7  
Tees77f150's Avatar
Tees77f150
Posting Guru
Joined: Nov 2008
Posts: 1,647
Likes: 3
From: Halifx Pa
I have simular issue with my 77 too. The heater hoses are warm to the touch, but the blower motor does nothing, no matter what speed you have it on. I checked the fuse which is in good shape.

That is all the further I have gotton at this point, been working on other issues, but starting look in to this issue. Any suggestions of where to start at? I am thinking of checking to see if there is power to the switch, and the motor. It does not have A/C.
 

Last edited by Tees77f150; Dec 3, 2008 at 06:01 PM. Reason: added info
Reply
Old Dec 3, 2008 | 06:21 PM
  #8  
Bullitt390's Avatar
Bullitt390
Certified Thread Hijacker
20 Year Member
Photogenic
Liked
Joined: Aug 2001
Posts: 14,441
Likes: 60
Club FTE Silver Member

Originally Posted by Tees77f150
I have simular issue with my 77 too. The heater hoses are warm to the touch, but the blower motor does nothing, no matter what speed you have it on. I checked the fuse which is in good shape.

That is all the further I have gotton at this point, been working on other issues, but starting look in to this issue. Any suggestions of where to start at? I am thinking of checking to see if there is power to the switch, and the motor. It does not have A/C.
Definately check for voltage at the switch, otherwise if the heater resistor was blown the blower would only work on "hi"

Also, replace the fuse anyways, I have seen plenty of "great" looking, pristine fuses that were actually blown.

Josh
 
Reply
FTE Stories

Ford Trucks for Ford Truck Enthusiasts

story-0

Top 10 Fords at 2026 Carlisle Ford Nationals

 Joe Kucinski
story-1

3 Best / 3 Worst Parts of Modern Ford Ownership

 Brett Foote
story-2

10 Amazing Upgrades That Solve Common Ford Truck Owner Headaches

 Pouria Savadkouei
story-3

Every 2026 Ford Engine Explained

 Brett Foote
story-4

10 Ugly Ford Trucks That We Still Kinda Love

 Joe Kucinski
story-5

10 Things Every Truck Owner NEEDS (2026 Edition)

 Michael S. Palmer
story-6

Rezvani's Latest Post-Apocalyptic Monster Is a Ford F-150 Raptor Underneath

 Verdad Gallardo
story-7

Top 10 Most Expensive Ford Trucks Ever Sold on Bring a Trailer

 Joe Kucinski
story-8

2027 Ford Super Duty Buyer's Guide (Every Model, Engine, & Package)

 Brett Foote
story-9

Top 10 Ford Truck Tragedies

 Joe Kucinski
Old Dec 3, 2008 | 10:17 PM
  #9  
plowpusher's Avatar
plowpusher
Posting Guru
Joined: Sep 2003
Posts: 1,192
Likes: 1
From: lino lakes, mn
to remove the heater core on a non AC truck drain the water remove the heater hoses remove the glove box door and liner, vent box,unplug the resister block. Remove the two nuts (7/16) on the heater motor under the hood then move over on the firewall about a foot and a half you'll see another nut on the firewall just about to the center, remove it unplug the heater motor and ground wire. Go back inside the cab some models have a brace under the dash remove it you should now be able to wiggle it loose on the studs it will come down a little now you can remove the cables on the heater box and pull it free at this time the heater core is accessible from the back behind the plate and the heater motor is also accessible.
 
Reply
Old Dec 4, 2008 | 11:58 AM
  #10  
Alvin in AZ's Avatar
Alvin in AZ
Postmaster
Joined: Aug 2005
Posts: 2,760
Likes: 8
From: Gadsden Purchase
Originally Posted by Bullitt390
...check for voltage at the switch...
{yes!}
Also, replace the fuse anyways, I have seen plenty of "great" looking,
pristine fuses that were actually blown.
Josh
Yeah, but. :)

Why pull -any- fuses tho?

You have electrical trouble...
So, you already have your meter out , right? ;)
Check all the fuses with your meter while they are in place.

Find the problem without disturbing anything, never know when you're
going to clear the trouble up moving wires etc. ;)

Not likely with a Ford but with an old VW the fuse holder itself could
cause the open. The bronze clips would get warm and loose all their
work hardened "temper". One of the best modifications I ever did to
VWs was replacing their sorry fuse setup with an after market fuse
block from the electronics store.

Same thing can happen to other types of electrical connectors too tho.

Alvin in AZ
ps- Great write up there PlowPusher! :)
 
Reply
Old Dec 4, 2008 | 12:09 PM
  #11  
ken selvy's Avatar
ken selvy
Senior User
Joined: Jan 2006
Posts: 493
Likes: 0
It is not that hard to replace core and motor , did mine twice in last ten years , first time heater core was leaking , second time fan was making terrible noise and just replaced it , now I have new core and heater and heats up in minutes , replace heater hoses also , best thing I did when winter arrives . I was driving around for three winters until I figured out how to fix it and I lol of how easy it was , I felt stupid for three winters of freezing with the windows down to defrost windshield.
 
Reply
Old Dec 5, 2008 | 05:56 AM
  #12  
NumberDummy's Avatar
NumberDummy
Ford Parts Specialist
Joined: Nov 2006
Posts: 88,826
Likes: 787
From: Simi Valley, CA
Club FTE Gold Member
1973/79 F100/350 Heater Water Valve / 1978/79 Bronco

IF your 1973/79 F100/350 has factory A/C, it will also have a heater water valve.

This valve is spliced into the heater hose, passenger side rear, and is vacuum controlled.

It's also a total POS!

What happens is, it gets stuck, usually in the closed position, or partially closed.

D4AZ18495A .. Heater Water Valve (Motorcraft YG136)

Fits: 1973/79 F100/350 & 1978/79 Bronco w/factory A/C.

Fits ALL w/ or w/o factory A/C: 1971/78 LTD/Mercury Marquis // 1971/78 Mustang // 1971/76 Torino/Montego/Cougar // 1973/76 T-Bird & Mark IV // 1974/78 Pinto/Bobcat.

Still available from Ford.

MSRP: $28.72 / FTEpartsguy.com price: $17.23
 
Reply
Old Dec 5, 2008 | 11:10 AM
  #13  
masterbeavis's Avatar
masterbeavis
Postmaster
25 Year Member
Joined: Aug 2000
Posts: 3,312
Likes: 1
From: Eldorado Ca. USA
Originally Posted by Alvin in AZ
Yeah, but.

Why pull -any- fuses tho?

You have electrical trouble...
So, you already have your meter out , right?
Check all the fuses with your meter while they are in place.

Find the problem without disturbing anything, never know when you're
going to clear the trouble up moving wires etc.

Not likely with a Ford but with an old VW the fuse holder itself could
cause the open. The bronze clips would get warm and loose all their
work hardened "temper". One of the best modifications I ever did to
VWs was replacing their sorry fuse setup with an after market fuse
block from the electronics store.

Same thing can happen to other types of electrical connectors too tho.

Alvin in AZ
ps- Great write up there PlowPusher!
I had a similar issue just the other day. I was wondering why I was getting around 11 volts to my signal relay, and nothing to my flasher/brakes. I put the meter on the fuses, they checked out great. Started poking around some more, checking bulbs, etc etc, still did not find the problem. I went back with a test light to verify that there was power at both ends of the fuse, and there wasnt. I was even further perplexed at the fact that there was power at one end(supply side), power on the fuse itself, and power at the other end of the fuse, but no power at the other terminal (the load side) I got a file and roughed the surface up a bit, nothing improved. I then started getting sparks when I would wedge the test light between the clips and the fuse, the lights would work. I knew I was close to figuring this one out. A small file was being useless in rectifying the problem, I wound up having to use a dremel tool with a grinding wheel on a low speed to polish up the metal. The supply side had corrosion, the load side had rust. After everything was clean and shiney, I STILL had problems. I put a new fuses in, my light problems went away. The old fuses needed cleaning, but they were old looking, so what the heck, fuses are cheap.
 
Reply
Old Dec 5, 2008 | 11:24 AM
  #14  
Bullitt390's Avatar
Bullitt390
Certified Thread Hijacker
20 Year Member
Photogenic
Liked
Joined: Aug 2001
Posts: 14,441
Likes: 60
Club FTE Silver Member

That was sorta my point, why dick around checking fuses when it's a simple matter to just replace it.
 
Reply
Old Dec 5, 2008 | 11:26 AM
  #15  
masterbeavis's Avatar
masterbeavis
Postmaster
25 Year Member
Joined: Aug 2000
Posts: 3,312
Likes: 1
From: Eldorado Ca. USA
Replacing fuses is not always the answer. Replacing fuses in my case would not have fixed anything had I not thoroughly cleaned the contact points.
 
Reply



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 10:38 AM.

story-0
Top 10 Fords at 2026 Carlisle Ford Nationals

Slideshow: Top 10 Fords at 2026 Ford Nationals

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-06-09 11:10:08


VIEW MORE
story-1
3 Best / 3 Worst Parts of Modern Ford Ownership

Based on years of owning multiple modern Ford products.

By Brett Foote | 2026-06-09 10:53:36


VIEW MORE
story-2
10 Amazing Upgrades That Solve Common Ford Truck Owner Headaches

SPONSORED: From muddy boots to rain-soaked cargo, these upgrades address some of the most common frustrations Ford truck owners face every day.

By Pouria Savadkouei | 2026-06-08 18:50:34


VIEW MORE
story-3
Every 2026 Ford Engine Explained

Here's everything you need to know about every Ford engine available for the 2026 model year.

By Brett Foote | 2026-06-05 12:58:01


VIEW MORE
story-4
10 Ugly Ford Trucks That We Still Kinda Love

Slideshow: 10 ugly Ford trucks that we still kinda love.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-06-03 09:51:16


VIEW MORE
story-5
10 Things Every Truck Owner NEEDS (2026 Edition)

Slideshow: the best gifts for dads & grads

By Michael S. Palmer | 2026-06-03 15:43:58


VIEW MORE
story-6
Rezvani's Latest Post-Apocalyptic Monster Is a Ford F-150 Raptor Underneath

Slideshow: Called the Fortress, the 850-horsepower pickup combines Raptor underpinnings with military-inspired features, survival equipment, and a starting price of $285,000.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-06-03 11:38:36


VIEW MORE
story-7
Top 10 Most Expensive Ford Trucks Ever Sold on Bring a Trailer

Slideshow: 10 most expensive Ford trucks ever sold on Bring a Trailer.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-05-27 16:24:34


VIEW MORE
story-8
2027 Ford Super Duty Buyer's Guide (Every Model, Engine, & Package)

Here's everything that has changed for the latest model year.

By Brett Foote | 2026-05-27 16:17:28


VIEW MORE
story-9
Top 10 Ford Truck Tragedies

Slideshow: Top 10 Ford truck tragedies.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-05-18 19:34:33


VIEW MORE