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Old Nov 30, 2008 | 12:57 PM
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Manual or Electric Choke?

I've had both types of carbs but never really been told the difference other thant he fact you have to manually choke the manual carb (which is what I have now). What is better? Any advantages to either one?

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Both chokes do the same thing. The only difference is that an electric choke opens on its own, and a manual choke requires that you must pull yourself it to open. The most common reason people install a manual choke is because they can't get their electric choke to work properly. However, when set up properly, an electric choke is virtually trouble-free.
 
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Old Nov 30, 2008 | 01:35 PM
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Both chokes do the same thing. The only difference is that an electric choke opens on its own, and a manual choke requires that you must pull yourself it to open. The most common reason people install a manual choke is because they can't get their electric choke to work properly. However, when set up properly, an electric choke is virtually trouble-free.
How does the electric connect?
 
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There are two kinds of automatic chokes from the factory. The first kind is completely heat operated. There is no electric connection. Electric chokes from the factory are actaully "electric assist" chokes; the electric heating element is used to open up the choke faster than a fully heat-operated version to reduce emissions. This form connects to the stator terminal of the alternator which is a 14 volt AC signal.

The third kind is "fully electric" and these are usually seen in aftermarket carburetors. These run to 12 volt hot-in-run. With these you have to be careful not to leave the key on without the engine running because the choke will open with the engine shut off and you don't want that.

Stock electric-assist chokes ground through the choke spring, and then through the carburetor casting itself. Most aftermarket electric chokes ground through a separate ground wire which is usually just connected to the carburetor itself.
 
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Old Nov 30, 2008 | 06:28 PM
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Originally Posted by fmc400
There are two kinds of automatic chokes from the factory. The first kind is completely heat operated. There is no electric connection. Electric chokes from the factory are actaully "electric assist" chokes; the electric heating element is used to open up the choke faster than a fully heat-operated version to reduce emissions. This form connects to the stator terminal of the alternator which is a 14 volt AC signal.

The third kind is "fully electric" and these are usually seen in aftermarket carburetors. These run to 12 volt hot-in-run. With these you have to be careful not to leave the key on without the engine running because the choke will open with the engine shut off and you don't want that.

Stock electric-assist chokes ground through the choke spring, and then through the carburetor casting itself. Most aftermarket electric chokes ground through a separate ground wire which is usually just connected to the carburetor itself.
Assuming with the key on, it would do what exactly?
 
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If an electric choke is connected to hot-in-run power and the key is left on with the engine shut off, two things happen. First, the choke is opening while the motor is shut off. If the engine is cooled down and you try to start it, it will backfire or not start at all because you're starting a cold engine with an open choke. Second, you're drawing current through the choke without the alternator charging the battery which can drain the battery.
 
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Old Nov 30, 2008 | 09:38 PM
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For cold weather the electic choke is nice so you can run back inside the house and let warm up. Set up some holley's and my guys like it just for this reason. Also purchased a quickfuel carb 830 with electric choke and works great. It snowed today. I have a manual on mine and sometimes hard to get in the perfect spot sometimes. Need to install a electric or just buy a new quickfuel 830 annular for my truck really like those carbs for general hot rodding in 4wds. good bang for the buck carb.
 
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Old Dec 1, 2008 | 05:13 AM
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Originally Posted by wyoming4x4
For cold weather the electic choke is nice so you can run back inside the house and let warm up. Set up some holley's and my guys like it just for this reason. Also purchased a quickfuel carb 830 with electric choke and works great. It snowed today. I have a manual on mine and sometimes hard to get in the perfect spot sometimes. Need to install a electric or just buy a new quickfuel 830 annular for my truck really like those carbs for general hot rodding in 4wds. good bang for the buck carb.
Can you convert a manual to electric without replacing the carb?
 
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Yes, you can.
 
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Yes, you can.
What would be needed? What parts? Worth it?

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If you don't like operating your choke manually, then I guess it's worth it. All you need is the choke cap itself, and then you'll have to do the wiring. Does your carburetor already have the hot-air stove setup?

If you're curious about performance or anything like that, there is no difference - both do the same thing, the only difference is what makes them do it (electricity versus yourself).
 
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Originally Posted by fmc400
If you don't like operating your choke manually, then I guess it's worth it. All you need is the choke cap itself, and then you'll have to do the wiring. Does your carburetor already have the hot-air stove setup?

If you're curious about performance or anything like that, there is no difference - both do the same thing, the only difference is what makes them do it (electricity versus yourself).
Honestly, not that big of a deal other than just being curious. None of my trucks/mustangs had the manual choke.
 
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What carb?

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I've had both types of carbs but never really been told the difference other thant he fact you have to manually choke the manual carb (which is what I have now). What is better? Any advantages to either one?

Jason
I mainly mess with holleys or holley designed any more but what carb do you run?? If it has a air horn on it I think about anything is possible.
 
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Originally Posted by wyoming4x4
I mainly mess with holleys or holley designed any more but what carb do you run?? If it has a air horn on it I think about anything is possible.
I have an edlebrock 600. I've never use holley, but hear that always starts up a battle between the two. I think it's more of a personal preference and how the carb is tuned. I didn't put this carb on, but I'll take a look what it has once the weather clears. Ohio sucks!
 
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Just contact edlebrock, they have a electric choke kit, its not too hard to install, i got mine with electric choke on it already, its a 600 too, its worth it, if you can dial it in like said above, and make sure its wired right, and your fine, and its nice to just turn the key and it starts, the manual choke can be a pain to try and find the right spot, good luck and i am sure you will be successful.
 
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