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for $6000 you could make all kinds of improvements- both to suspension and motor(I'm guessing it would actually be quite a bit less)
and after you made those improvements, you would be able to hold your own against the PSD
So know you can have "something like the big boy"- I agree with you-
But once you have "something like the big boy", the one without the "big boy" label costs much less to maintain, and fuel costs much less to purchase.
So even if you were to make some capital gain over the "something like the big boy" at the time of resale, it isnt really seen because of the cost of getting to that point in time
Am I making any sense here? lol
I'Ve owned both- and to me its all a matter of personal preferance- I wouldnt slam one over the other-take what you can get and make it do what you want
and after you made those improvements, you would be able to hold your own against the PSD
So know you can have "something like the big boy"- I agree with you-
But once you have "something like the big boy", the one without the "big boy" label costs much less to maintain, and fuel costs much less to purchase.
So even if you were to make some capital gain over the "something like the big boy" at the time of resale, it isnt really seen because of the cost of getting to that point in time
Am I making any sense here? lol
I'Ve owned both- and to me its all a matter of personal preferance- I wouldnt slam one over the other-take what you can get and make it do what you want
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I have an 03 v10 with 4.30 gears and tow in excess of 11,000 lbs fairly often. I bought it to be a cheap capable extra vehicle but now I drive it every day. I am in north Louisiana so i'm not climbing mountains but power seems sufficient for the load. The rear suspension is the weak link but it is with the diesel too. As for the 6.0 I think we all know its checkered past. I have a few f350's and f450's with 7.3's. I love em'. I have one with 375,000 on the clock that we pull a 16k dozer with. Nothing but headaches from my first and last 6.0. The 6.0 may be ok for an X tooling around town with an occasional tow but its not up to the task of real work every day all day long.
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Now that I'm dealing with the winter characteristics of a diesel, I'm reflecting that I might have been better off with a V-10. Sure, it's less power, but it's still enough to tow with. It has its own maintenance issues, for sure, but its cold-weather characteristics would be better than a diesel, which become an issue if you want to just run out in the snow to get something from the store.
Starting up a 7.3L in real cold weather becomes something that you have to plan out and prepare for. That's not really a problem for me, as I don't drive mine to work, but it might be for some people.
The fact that the truck with better driveability in the cold weather is ALSO $6,000 cheaper isn't anything to sneeze at either...
Starting up a 7.3L in real cold weather becomes something that you have to plan out and prepare for. That's not really a problem for me, as I don't drive mine to work, but it might be for some people.
The fact that the truck with better driveability in the cold weather is ALSO $6,000 cheaper isn't anything to sneeze at either...
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First of all, thanks for all the responses!
Some one had mentioned buying a crew cab Super Duty, I had pondered this. But after test driving one with the a 3, 8, and 11 year old in the back, I'm having second thoughts! We take several 8 hour trips to Missouri every year to visit the in-laws, and I'm not sure the kids could get along in those quarters for that long, let alone my sanity!!
Based on the responses, I'm leaning towards the V-10. My toy hauler weighs around 11K pounds, and has a tongue weight of around 1k pounds. I have a Reese weight distribution hitch with the Heavy Duty Dual Cam Sway Control, so I don't think the tongue weight is a problem, but what else can I do to make the X a better hauler? Also what can be done to make a little more power out of the V-10? Do the cold air intake systems available for the V-10 make a difference, what about an exhaust?
Thanks again guys!
Schmitty
Some one had mentioned buying a crew cab Super Duty, I had pondered this. But after test driving one with the a 3, 8, and 11 year old in the back, I'm having second thoughts! We take several 8 hour trips to Missouri every year to visit the in-laws, and I'm not sure the kids could get along in those quarters for that long, let alone my sanity!!
Based on the responses, I'm leaning towards the V-10. My toy hauler weighs around 11K pounds, and has a tongue weight of around 1k pounds. I have a Reese weight distribution hitch with the Heavy Duty Dual Cam Sway Control, so I don't think the tongue weight is a problem, but what else can I do to make the X a better hauler? Also what can be done to make a little more power out of the V-10? Do the cold air intake systems available for the V-10 make a difference, what about an exhaust?Thanks again guys!
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I have the the 2000 X I have added the hypertech programer, AFE air intake, Headers, Exhaust, airbags, RAS and Helwig Sway bar.
Airbags and sway bar are what I consider must haves when going that heavy. You have to consider all the other gear that will be in the X while towing. Kids, misc, luggage, etc. I just got the super duty F350 cause the X just didnt have the power I was looking for.
Airbags and sway bar are what I consider must haves when going that heavy. You have to consider all the other gear that will be in the X while towing. Kids, misc, luggage, etc. I just got the super duty F350 cause the X just didnt have the power I was looking for.
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