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Old Nov 28, 2008 | 10:13 AM
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Question Headlight Harness MOD

The modification I am referring to is the harness with relays. LMC and Summit etc sell it. This is so the headlights get near full power because the power isn't running through the headlight switch. I have searched but didn't really get the answer I was hoping for.

I am curious if the added voltage could cause premature headlight bulb failure or added heat to the headlight housing. I was just intrested in any potential problems with this modification.

Does anyone have this done on their 92-96 truck?

For any interested, I have Sylvania Xtravision bulbs and they do make a difference. We put GE Nighthawk bulbs in my Dad's 97 Cobra and they made an improvement also. I think the Nighthawks may be brighter than the Xtras, but don't know for sure since they are in different vehicles.
 
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Old Nov 28, 2008 | 10:24 AM
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Good point. What does the bulb manufacturer say about bulb life under these conditions? I suspect the bulbs are rated for the typical automotove charge voltage of about 13.5v but better to get it from the horses mouth. I like the idea of running the headlights through a relay, it makes a lot of sense for several reasons, it opens the door to automatic light control. The whole lighting system on my Subaru is setup this way, doesn't matter where the switches are set, all the lights shut of when you remove the key.
 
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Old Nov 28, 2008 | 10:28 AM
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I think it makes sense as well.

Both the Nighthawk and the Xtravision say that they are 12 volt bulbs. I don't know if there is actual specs available for them.

As far as the mod goes, I have heard people say that they only get about 10-11 volts at the bulbs, with the OEM setup, and after the mod is installed they get 12 or more volts at the bulbs.

I just thought that if it was designed one way to start with then changing it could cause a problem.
 
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Old Nov 28, 2008 | 12:41 PM
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Had they wired the truck right to start with, not run the circuit through the headlight switch the bulbs would get the right voltage to start with. A melting switch/harness can't be what they had in mind to limit/control the voltage to the bulbs!

Just plain bad engineering.

In my 94 the switch is dieing/dead melting yet again, I'm going with the relay setup and being done with it. About as easy to setup as repairing the system as is again.

Bulbs are made for a vehicle with a 12v system, so they rate em "12v". They know the voltage is actually higher then that on a "running" vehicle.

Heck a "good" battery by itself has slightly more volts then that.
 
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Old Nov 28, 2008 | 07:25 PM
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I have the Summit APC kits on my 93 Lightning, and 94 4x4, and they work great. I burnt up 2 headlight switches in my 94 4x4 by running the zeon bulbs. Now I have bright lights, and no switch problems, and no bulb problems. Most of my driving is with lights on, as I work 2nd shift. I do not drive the trucks everyday, but have had the kits installed for 4, or 5 years on the 94.
 
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Old Nov 29, 2008 | 08:26 AM
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Just plain bad engineering.
most vehicles from this era ran the headlights through the headlight switch. It wasn't until more recently that OEMs began using relays to power the headlights. If the switch is properly sized for the intended current there's nothing wrong with running the full current through the switch. However, with a relay, the headlight switch can be made much smaller and more lightweight which helps with fuel mileage. The headlights can then be operated by the security system, independent of the headlight switch -- another feature not present on many vehicles from this time frame. Just because it isn't how they do it now doesn't necessarily make it bad engineering.
 
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Old Nov 29, 2008 | 08:41 AM
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I looked up the specs and both bulbs are rated for 12.8 volts. I may end up doing this at some point.

I read about the burned up headlight switches. It seems to me that if they designed it this way they should have used a heavier duty switch. Mine is still original though.
 
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Old Nov 29, 2008 | 10:19 AM
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My old 83 burned up a couple of headlight switches and it turned out to be bad connections causing high resistance. Ford isn't the only one to have this problem and the headlight relay Mod shows up in many car and truck forums. BTW if the bulbs are rated for 12v it will be fine at 13.8v. As the voltage goes up the amps go down but watts remains the same.
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Old Dec 4, 2008 | 09:06 AM
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Originally Posted by jonwoos
I have the Summit APC kits on my 93 Lightning, and 94 4x4, and they work great. I burnt up 2 headlight switches in my 94 4x4 by running the zeon bulbs. Now I have bright lights, and no switch problems, and no bulb problems. Most of my driving is with lights on, as I work 2nd shift. I do not drive the trucks everyday, but have had the kits installed for 4, or 5 years on the 94.
I looked on Summit and Jegs and couldn't find anything except for kits to run high and low beam like on the chevy trucks.

The only relay kit I can find is the one on LMC.

I wonder if one is any better than the other.
 
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Old Dec 4, 2008 | 09:49 AM
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Our trucks have 9004 bulbs, correct?

Here is the part # at Summit for the kit #GRM-01-130. It works just like the factory, highbeams only, and low beams only.
 
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Yeah... if you want to see a vehicle with wiring so undersized the headlights only get about 1/2 voltage look for one of those mid '90's Plymouth/Dodge Duster or Sundance. A friend of mine has one and we couldn't believe how useless the headlights were so we rewired it with a relay direct to the battery, the differece was literally night and day.
 
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Old Dec 4, 2008 | 02:56 PM
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Our trucks have 9007 bulbs. I believe that 87-91 uses 9004.

You know I always thought those duster/dance lights were really dim.
 
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Old Dec 4, 2008 | 07:44 PM
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I've heard that this mod will shorten the life of bulbs... it makes sence if your upping the voltage that they wont last as long.. but I doubt if its a real big deal...
 
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Old Dec 4, 2008 | 08:13 PM
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Well, I don't think running full battery voltage to the headlights will shorten the life of the bulb, but perhaps running less than full voltage may lengthen the life. But then again, maybe not...some electrical components tend to lead shorter lives if they're underpowered. I'm not sure if a light bulb is in that category, though.

I think it boils down to this: would you rather have a long-lasting bulb, or would you rather be able to SEE at night? I've never had an issue with the headlights in my '89, but I've had all the parts for the relay upgrade lying around for months...reckon I've put it off long enough!

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Old Dec 4, 2008 | 10:18 PM
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ok, the Summit # for 9007 bulbs is GRM-01-134
 
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