vin claims 352 2V, yet the air breather says 390 2V... yeah I know air breathers are cheap at the junkyards, but the few true 352's I have seen had the exhaust crossover that goes around the front of the motor, and this one doesn't...was wondering if theres a easy way to find out.

 

Don't know the stroke measure's but that's one of the way to tell the difference, as well as number of valve cover bolts. If Number Dummy reads this post he will answer exactly what I'm trying to say. Also those engine's you mention with the cross-over pipe, their Y block either a 312, 272,292 there's other but these where common ones built in the late 50's & early 60's; I never seen a 352 with a cross over. 352 where first introduce in 1965, and ran I beleive tell 1967, when the 360 was born.
Others will post with more info.........

 

All these trucks came with OIL BATH aircleaners as original.

Some peeps don't like them because they look ugly and are messy to deal with, so replace them from something off a car.

Just about every 1962/86 car 2V or 4V aircleaner will fit.

Most peeps use 1965/67 aircleaners because they don't have all that plumbing for the pre-heat tube, all the extra holes for the Evap Emission system filter, other crappola.

Crescent shaped red decal with a checkered flag motif on the ends with 390 in black in the middle. Glues on the lid of the aircleaner. Used on 1963/71 cars; 1968/72 F100/350's.

No FE (352/360/390, etc etc) engine ever had a crossover pipe in front of the engine.

Only the Y Blocks had that feature. No Y blocks installed in trucks after 1964.

 

Demonknight...I see you are in my neck of the woods...if you arent too far away I would be willing to come have a look at it and help determine the engine.


- cs65

 

camp..I'm in the process of moving to Oak Harbor...so not to horribly far..now that its day light I'll poke around on the motor and see if I can find a few numbers off the block...

 

Is the ferry back in operation again from Port Townsend to Oak Harbor?

If not, it's a looooong way around the barn from south of Seattle.

Numbers on the block won't tell you anything. You'll see 352 cast into the block drivers side front.

All that 352 refers to is: 1965/76 FE (352/360/390) engines were all cast as 352's.

Only when finished can the engine be something else.

What size is the engine from block casting numbers?

There is no way to know: N-O-N-E = NONE!

 

I was thinking of A the blocks casting date info coupled with the other cast parts as well as other little visual things that could indicate a swap at some point in the past...Oak Harbor is a lil bit of a drive...Im in the very southern part of the sound area...
As for the ferries..they are back running...borred a couple of ferries from Tacoma as the steel electrics are en route to Mexico for scrapping..


- cs65

 

(sigh)

What will a casting date tell you? Absolutely nothing.

1965 390 blocks were cast as 352's. 1966/70 390, 410 & 428 blocks were cast as 352's. 1971/76 360/390 blocks were cast as 352's.

Can you tell the difference between 352, 390, 410 or 428 engines?

I can't.

Forget things like exhaust/intake manifolds, dizzies, carbs, valve covers etc, cuz one type will work in place of another, so who know what might have been swapped around.

These parts and dozens of others won't help you ID the engine any more than block casting numbers, date codes, yadda yadda yadda will!

 

yeah the ferry is running, just have to put in a reservation to get on it...though I showed up two trips early and got on with no problems....
Guess if theres no way to tell it doesn't much matter..but then that also means a intake for a 390/428 will fit on the 352? if thats the case finding parts might be easier than looking for ONLY 352 parts

 

Intake manifolds will swap engine to engine.

Measure the stroke to tell what size the engine is: 352: 3.50" / 390 = 3.78"

 

You can check and measure the stroke. Remove #1 and 4 spark plugs and put #1 on TDC. Insert a length of wood dowel or heavy wire and mark with a sharpie using a common edge as a guide. Then put it in #4 which should be at BDC and mark again using the same common edge as a guide. Remove and measure the distance between your marks. 352 has a 3.50" stroke and the 390 a 3.78" or roughly 3 3/4". Both the 352 and 390 block are in essence the same. They both shared the same water jacket cyl cores. 352 with a 4.00 bore and the 390 4.05. The 360 was the same block and 4.05 bore just a 3.50" crank stroke. The main thing with FE heads and intakes are the pre 66 ports were the larger lowriser size. 66 and later the smaller port size. Bill is right about the blocks casting number. They are generic and you'll find the same number on different bore blocks. You can check the date code below the oil filter adapter. That will tell you the year. Heads and intake can be ID'd by their casting numbers. Those have date codes too. Like Bill said many of the same parts were used on 352, 360, 390 and 428's. So trying to ID one externally is somewhat difficult. Add 40 years of time and a host of part swappin and rebuilds and it's a pretty good mix sometimes. STD FE parts at the Pick Yer Part are very inexpensive. It's the rarer hipo parts that get expensive. Just do your homework before you buy parts. Ask the guys here. There is also a FE engine forum here too.