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Old Nov 17, 2008 | 09:33 AM
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Eaton True trac ?

Has anyone put an eaton true trac in their excursion ? I have an open diff in the rear now. I tow a 8,000 lb camper and it spins a lot in the dirt/mud in the campgrounds. I have to use the 4wd way more then I think I should.

I am thinking about the true trac because it doesn't have any clutches or parts that wear out. I plan on keeping it for a long time so I didn't want to have to worry about rebuilding the clutch discs later down the road.

I use it on the street a lot too, but not daily. So I thought a detroit locker was a little over kill.
 
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Old Nov 17, 2008 | 11:33 AM
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After I burned up the rear diff iin my Lightning, I replaced it with a Detroit True-Trac rear diff. I love it. No more clutches to replace, ever.

I've read a few posts in the diesel forum where guys have installed a True-Trac in the front and rear diff of their trucks. From what I've read, it's all smiles for them after the install too.

If the differentials in either my Excursion or F250 ever go out, I'll replace them with a True-Trac too, without hesitation.

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Old Nov 17, 2008 | 12:10 PM
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Originally Posted by Stewart_H
After I burned up the rear diff iin my Lightning, I replaced it with a Detroit True-Trac rear diff. I love it. No more clutches to replace, ever.

I've read a few posts in the diesel forum where guys have installed a True-Trac in the front and rear diff of their trucks. From what I've read, it's all smiles for them after the install too.

If the differentials in either my Excursion or F250 ever go out, I'll replace them with a True-Trac too, without hesitation.

Stewart
Dude, you suck, you have an Excursion and a Lightning. J/K

I really want a Gen 2 Lightning more then anything. Unless Ford ever gets off their butt and makes a Gen 3 Lightning. I almost bought a Gen 2 when I bought my excursion. I went with the Ex because I tow a lot.

besides that the true trac sounds like a winner
 
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Old Nov 17, 2008 | 12:32 PM
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Originally Posted by Ranger1F150
Dude, you suck, you have an Excursion and a Lightning. J/K
LOL!

Yeah, the True-Trac really performs perfectly at the 1/4 mile track, the autocross track, and in daily driving. Other than doing what it's supposed to do, I couldn't tell a difference between it and the OEM diff with clutches.

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Old Nov 17, 2008 | 04:15 PM
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Even if they perform the same or even if the stock was better(which its not) there is little difference in price. I figure the difference in price is worth not having to rebuild the clutches later.

The guys with them front and rear should be able to go through anything.
 
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Old Nov 17, 2008 | 08:00 PM
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just be careful turning in the rain... the back of your truck might pass the front!
 
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Old Nov 18, 2008 | 11:06 AM
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Originally Posted by Stewart_H

If the differentials in either my Excursion or F250 ever go out, I'll replace them with a True-Trac too, without hesitation.

Stewart
Can the True-Trac be used to upgrade either an open axle, or a factory limited slip axle?

-JR
 
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Old Nov 18, 2008 | 11:58 AM
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Originally Posted by Suburban_B_Gone
Can the True-Trac be used to upgrade either an open axle, or a factory limited slip axle?

-JR
The True Trac is a clutchless, limited slip diff that is a direct replacement for your factory diff.

"Detroit Truetrac Limited Slip Differentials.
The Detroit Truetrac is a gear to gear limited slip unit that performs like an open differential under normal driving conditions and automatically transfers torque to the wheel with better traction when ground conditions warrant. The limited slip unit responds instantly to torque feedback, anytime, at any speed. <TABLE cellSpacing=4 cellPadding=4 width=771 border=0><TBODY><TR><TD width="35%">Detroit Truetrac:
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The Detroit Truetrac, manufactured by Tractech, is the aftermarket?s leading gear type limited slip differential. The patented design of parallel axis planetary helical gears provide a quiet, automatic splitting of torque. Power transfer goes literally unnoticed by the driver - even in front wheel drive axles. The Detroit Truetrac performs like an open differential under normal driving conditions and automatically transfers torque to the wheel with better traction when ground conditions warrant. The limited slip responds instantly to torque feedback, anytime, at any speed.

Detroit Truetracs are engineered for front and rear axles, semi floating (C-clip axles) and transfer cases. Proven design, low cost and effective performance all make the Detroit Truetrac limited slip the choice of professionals and traction enthusiasts everywhere.

Great for off-road, street and strip.
The Detroit Truetrac delivers the traction necessary for drag racing and off-road terrain while not adversely affecting handling on the street."


Source: Detroit Truetrac Limited Slip

You can Google it too to get more info. Detroit TrueTrac diffs are a pretty well known upgrade in the performance world.

Hope that helps.

Stewart
 
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Old Nov 18, 2008 | 04:46 PM
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How difficult is it to install? I do almost all of my own repairs, except for transmissions/rearends. What all is involved? Do you have to set it up with shims and a dial indicator?
 
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Old Nov 20, 2008 | 07:31 AM
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Originally Posted by Cardiac69
Do you have to set it up with shims and a dial indicator?
Yes

remove diff cover
remove axle shafts
remove diff from housing
remove ring gear from stock diff
install ring gear on true-trac
install true-trac
set up backlash with dial indicator and shims
replace diff cover and fill with fluid

its pretty much the same thing you would do to swap out ring and pinions, if you are planning on swapping out your rear gears that would be the perfect time to add the true-trac.

If you stock diff has a lot of miles on it, it might not be working that well anymore. the stock t-lok LS diff has clutches that wear out with time and the true-trac would be a great replacement
 
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Old Nov 20, 2008 | 09:35 AM
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While I really like the idea of the True-Trac, I believe that this is going to exceed the extent of my mechanical prowess. Looks like I should find a pro for this kind of mod.

Thank you,

-JR
 
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Old Nov 20, 2008 | 09:48 AM
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Another one to try would be the ARB - that way you can use it only when you need it.
 
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Old Nov 20, 2008 | 09:17 PM
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Originally Posted by Ranger1F150
Yes

remove diff cover
remove axle shafts
remove diff from housing
remove ring gear from stock diff
install ring gear on true-trac
install true-trac
set up backlash with dial indicator and shims
replace diff cover and fill with fluid

its pretty much the same thing you would do to swap out ring and pinions, if you are planning on swapping out your rear gears that would be the perfect time to add the true-trac.

If you stock diff has a lot of miles on it, it might not be working that well anymore. the stock t-lok LS diff has clutches that wear out with time and the true-trac would be a great replacement
Thanks for the explanation. Might be able to do it, might not. Have to think on it, and get a buddy to help me if I do it.....
 
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Old Jan 22, 2009 | 11:19 PM
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Yes

remove diff cover
remove axle shafts
remove diff from housing
remove ring gear from stock diff
install ring gear on true-trac
install true-trac
set up backlash with dial indicator and shims
replace diff cover and fill with fluid
Is there anywhere on the net I can get pics of how to remove the axle shafts and how to set up the backlash with a dial indicator and shims?
 
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Old Jan 23, 2009 | 04:29 AM
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I have true trac on the front and rear of my ex.Works great love them and they say nothing over 35's i believe but im running 44's and have had no problems.going on 2 years now
 
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