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Old Nov 13, 2008 | 01:52 PM
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I have done a complete tune-up including new coils and i am still have a problem around the 30 to 40 MPR range. The engine is missing but no check engine lite. I am going nuts with this......
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98 F150 5.4 4x4 automatic
 
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Old Nov 13, 2008 | 06:35 PM
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What kind of plugs are you using and it only misses at 30-40 MPH?
 
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Old Nov 13, 2008 | 06:41 PM
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Ford plugs.
It seems to be only in the range of 30 - 45 or so. I did notice this morning that it was missing right after i started it.
 
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Old Nov 13, 2008 | 07:22 PM
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And this was missing before you changed out the plugs and coils?
 
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Old Nov 13, 2008 | 07:38 PM
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yes
the plugs looked good the engine has 160k and this was the second time the plugs were changed first time was around 110k.
 
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Old Nov 13, 2008 | 08:18 PM
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My guess is that you don't have a coil fully seated or one of the new COPs or plugs is bad. You used dielectric grease inside the boots?
 
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Old Nov 13, 2008 | 08:27 PM
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used the grease, i am planning on checking them this weekend.
 
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Old Nov 14, 2008 | 04:33 PM
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Have you had the injectors professionally cleaned?

Our shop had a 1988 F150 with the 302 that had a miss at that speed. Dealer tried plugs, wires etc, checked trans and torque converter but nothing helped until they cleaned the injectors. Had about same miles at the time too as yours.
 
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Old Nov 14, 2008 | 04:36 PM
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not yet. I was looking at the ones on ebay and figured it would be cheaper to replace them. What do you think?
 
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Old Nov 14, 2008 | 05:09 PM
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Put an injector in her! Get access to a scan tool, not a code reader. Do a misfire monitor to find out which cyl is missing. Then swap your injector with another one on that same bank. when the misfire moves to that new bank, you know it's the injector.

or you can save yourself the hassle and just put the injector in!! Go OEM though, none of that aftermarket crap. Or you'll be brinin it to me at the dealership and I'm just gonna tell you to pay me to put OEM injector in it. haha!
 
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Old Nov 14, 2008 | 06:29 PM
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I had the same problem a couple years ago, took the IAC valve out and sprayed the inside with throttle body cleaner and let it soak a half hour, resprayed, shook out. I also may have moved the valve by pressing on it with my fingers, while wet, but I can't be sure on this point. Rapping on it with a screw driver handle sometimes made the missing go away, was worse on cool mornings.
 
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Old Nov 14, 2008 | 10:03 PM
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You sure it isn't converter lock-up clutch chatter? does it do it if you lock out OD?
 
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Old Nov 14, 2008 | 10:22 PM
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I didn't think of TC lock-up. I guess if you did a misfire monitor, and found no misfires then it could be TC lock-up chatter. Good point LxMan1!
 
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Old Nov 14, 2008 | 10:31 PM
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i'll try to OD lock out tomorrow.
where can you get a scan tool? Will it show items even no cel showing.
If it is the TC what can be done?
 
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Old Nov 15, 2008 | 06:01 PM
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Wouldn't Torque Converter lock-up, have other symptoms? Such as truck acting like it has a mind of its own and is going to charge thru a red light, if on level ground, light load, slowly accelerate to a certain point, then it's "Charge ahead " Engine speeding up and slowing down, all on its own. Would only stumble and miss after it had been at a higher speed, not from a dead stop after a restarting of the engine.
 
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