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Old Nov 8, 2008 | 08:10 PM
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when people lable me a ford guy i laugh at them. they have no idea who i am or what i like. i love old japanese imports from the 70's and 80's. telling them that usually shuts them up.
 
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Old Nov 8, 2008 | 09:28 PM
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Originally Posted by OrangeJuice
How about this. I saw this on a ball cap at the engine shop. It read: Ashes to ashes, dust to dust, if it wern't for Chevey's, our tools would rust.
Hehe, thats priceless! Either stops rust from the tools being used, or the oil being leaked out of the famous sbc rear main.

I always refer to the fact of Nascar-in the ol days. Especially for the chebby crowd, when the Chrysler Hemi's ruled the track, the only contender they had was Ford. The bowtie brigade had thier bowtie tucked between their legs then-stating some safety crap. Until of course they came out with the "restrictor" plates to make it fair for the lesser engines-so they could keep up.
Ah yes, the Ford 9" rear-stronger than any other axle in its group-the closest contender might be the chrysler 8-3/4", which was good. All them uber crappy whiney 10 bolts and 12 bolts should be used to line septic tanks-where they belong. Anyone note how GM copied the 9" for the 14 bolt? It was a good idea, and should be the norm for all axles... It slays me-remembering an old commercial about Fords getting stuck due to axle hang down(9"-if I remember correct)-but they did not mention the extra low hangdown of the 14 bolt-which nearly drags with stock tires, hehe(I actually like the 14 bolts-because of the ease/9" design for gear setup)
Engines! when 427ci is mentioned, sadly-most refer to the gm stuff, which is mediocre-compared to any Ford 427.
My uncle had a motorhome with a 454, which ended up having main bearing/crank problems-he had the engine replaced, and a mechanic showed him a room full of 454 boat anchors that had the same problem-couldn't handle the loads. Meanwhile, the venerable 460's only problem in the same style motorhomes have exhaust manifold bolt breakage-due to restrictive catalytic converters-makes too much heat, warps manifolds and breaks bolts. Which would you rather have? Btw, my uncle now owns a Ford powered motorhome. What happened to the 454-its all 502 or bigger? Hmm
Sheetmetal, LOL-well, ever see any original sheetmetal rustrolet from the 70's??? No-they have all been re-done, and still rust like they are soaked in salt. The 70's dodge trucks are mostly gone, due to the rustmonster also. However I see many original paint Ford trucks out there, sure some have rust spots-cab corners, and box wheel wells-after 30 years of beating.
I do admit, I like the GM HEI ignition module-not the rest of the distributor-throw that junk away. And Saginaw steering stuff-which all 3 of the "big three" use.
The way things are going, I would hate to lose any of the big three-they earned their position. As for the jap stuff-some is good, but really-where are your loyalties-and MONEY going? Thats another topic.
ok, enough blabbing for me, heh
Blue Oval! FTW!
 
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Old Nov 9, 2008 | 08:33 AM
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Well said. I've always loved the Ford 429 over any other motor including the 460...when my 460 goes, I'm gonna swap a 429 in.
 
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Old Nov 9, 2008 | 11:40 AM
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Originally Posted by TexasRho83
You've got one of the cleanest looking rigs I've seen...probably one of the best running too. Great job dude. Do you get her muddy?
thanks...i havent gotten it muddy... i was going to but it's turning out to be nicer than i planed and now i don't really want to. i would love to build another 4x4 ford for strickly mudding. i have been thinking about doing a 302/347/351/408 cleavor swap into something like a bronco 2 or even a sammi. something that looks weak but will turn heads when it's fired up.
 
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Old Nov 9, 2008 | 11:50 AM
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Originally Posted by JBradley500
thanks...i havent gotten it muddy... i was going to but it's turning out to be nicer than i planed and now i don't really want to. i would love to build another 4x4 ford for strickly mudding. i have been thinking about doing a 302/347/351/408 cleavor swap into something like a bronco 2 or even a sammi. something that looks weak but will turn heads when it's fired up.
Keep it Ford!
 
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Old Nov 9, 2008 | 01:06 PM
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""in the end its just a car/truck guys."""
True...unless it's a FORD
 
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Old Nov 9, 2008 | 09:59 PM
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A buddy of mine from work is a die-hard Chevy fan and when he say's I should put a Chevy engine in my truck because their better engines I tell him: All the power out of the engine won't do you any good if you don't have a 9'' Ford rearend to harness the power. Chevy guys use them because their bulletproof and they work. He agree's and it usually quiets him down.
 
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Old Nov 9, 2008 | 11:17 PM
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This makes me think of what happened to me on, friday.

I was parked at a gas station getting a drink, and a guy in a mid 70's Dodge drove up and looked at me and was like oh you own a wussy (sub the w with the p) truck. What do you have in that? and im like a 302/c6 and he's like *****IEST thing Ford ever built, so I was like it does me fine. And he went on about how horrible all ford things were so I was like thats good what do you have in your rust bucket? and he's like Dodge's stock 383 stroker and a 4l60E .... so I stared at him and im like those are chevy and he's like no they're not! they're DODGE so i was like dude a 383 is pretty much a board out 350 from chevy for off roading, and a 4L60E is the stock tranny for 94+ chevy's, so you'd have to make a nice new motor mount fab and re-do an entire tranny set up to fit that in there being E stands for electronic.... so he just stared at me like ..... how dare you prove me wrong. So then he asked me if i was so smart what engine/tranny it would have and I was like either a 318/360 thats what comes to my mind for Dodge and I am not sure of the Dodge tranny in the 70's. Well he started attacking my 302 again and was trying to get me to race and so I let my 19 year old self let loose and I agreed, we got out to the light and his truck sounded like it was going to explode and I smoked him off the line and was doing about 85 (running smooth and nice no problems what-so-ever) in a 60, and i heard his truck behind me (not gaining on me at all i should add) it sounded like it was going to explode. So I slowed down, not wanting that hefty of a ticket and he passed me flipping me off but i smiled and waved at him.

so i let my truck do the talking for me. I made him a laughing stock.
 
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Old Nov 9, 2008 | 11:17 PM
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i would rather put a model t 4 banger engine in my truck before i put in a General Mishap Motor! and remember guys the reason that there is so many parts for chevys is they always need them! and look back to the 32 ford, why not a 32 chevy? well theres none left and the 32 ford has better lines!, and i am sick of the old story that the 350 chevy is easy to fit in the 32 ford, thats why there popular, the reason is that blowtie boys can't stand to drool over the beauty in design of the 32 ford! so they have to have there own, plus since 350s are a dime a dozen because the turds they came out of have bit the dust years ago plus they have been removed and rebuilt 3 times by some idiot! and since they brake down so much they have tons of parts!
 
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Old Nov 9, 2008 | 11:22 PM
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Originally Posted by 1977f150xlt
i would rather put a model t 4 banger engine in my truck before i put in a General Mishap Motor! and remember guys the reason that there is so many parts for chevys is they always need them! and look back to the 32 ford, why not a 32 chevy? well theres none left and the 32 ford has better lines!, and i am sick of the old story that the 350 chevy is easy to fit in the 32 ford, thats why there popular, the reason is that blowtie boys can't stand to drool over the beauty in design of the 32 ford! so they have to have there own, plus since 350s are a dime a dozen because the turds they came out of have bit the dust years ago plus they have been removed and rebuilt 3 times by some idiot! and since they brake down so much they have tons of parts!

To play devils advocate I have a 350 that has 315,XXX miles on it stock and it is running just as strong new, never been rebuilt or anything. =) Sorry I cant resist that
 
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Old Nov 9, 2008 | 11:37 PM
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i dont know i like my chevys too, i mean thats where most of the performance is around here, i never really see modded fords. i mean i think any 351 around here is hard to come by. probably why i like chevys over ford, but i like the design of ford trucks, there good looking.
 
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Old Nov 9, 2008 | 11:40 PM
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Originally Posted by UTfball68
Brentlee...not to be the bearer of bad news but...the 383 was a Chrysler engine in the late 50's through the early 70's...it was part of their B block series. And not to be a buzzkill but...if you have a stock 302, there's no way you smoked him unless his 383 was garbage...because the 383 was rated up to 350hp in some years with a 4v setup, and up to 325 with a 2v. I also believe the 4l60E was a dodge tranny too...dunno if it woulda been in that truck that year, but I do know they had it in the Dodge Caravan.
Ben, I always thought it was Chevy....? Just from the fact when I was ordering 350's for a boat they wanted me to upgrade to 383's......

And the fact was Ben, he didnt have a 383 in it even if he wanted to believe it, he had a 318 more than likely or a Six. And no the 4L60E is a chevy tranny I know because I have one in my suburban, it's predecessor was the 4L60, and the 700R4.
 
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Old Nov 9, 2008 | 11:42 PM
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then that must be the best one i have ever heard of, the ones that i have seen always had valve rattle or the famous like a knock! or burns oil like a Iraqi militant or some other general mishap, and i love how the 350 can do no wrong, man those things are pure evil, the blowtie boys who lust at them are just evil people who like to stir the pot! they never have anything nice to say, i have never seen a ford guy stirring the pot! i am neutral when it comes to cars, if i don't like it i won't look, simple as that, its the blow tie boys who have the issues and a more than enough rooster headed dodge boys who think that there new semi hemi is the best thing since sliced bread, the new semi hemi does not even compare to the original hemi, and even then give me a nice 429 ford! and the one who are bothered or jealous often show it by trying to look better! and being complete JACK REAR ENDS! (and if you like my whys of terming things please say so!) lol
 
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Old Nov 10, 2008 | 12:09 AM
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4l60E was strictly a GM tranny, if dodge had a clue they would have used them also because whatever dodge did use sucks like you can't believe. I don't get into the whole debate, I hate jap crap, love my ford, daily drive a cherokee of which I also love. not everything GM made was awsome, but knocking there engines is a very poor place to start. Compare a 351m to a 350, the 350 will win every time, unless of course your biased. Now build them both, put a 400 crank in the 351m, put a 400 crank in the 350, (be a 383 stroker) or just get a GM 400, if both were built comparably they would be very close, however the chev would be costing you ALOT less, the more built we are talking the more money the chev saves. Now how bout a 351w vs chev 350, thats much better competiton, but it took ford how long to put that on the table? what about the cleveland? although a good engine an very buildable for what ever reason they never cought on and in my neck of the woods are very hard to find. Chevy used the same basic engine from 1956 when the 283 came out to 2000 when they put the last 350 in a z 71 tahoe, they did this because it was cost effective and would still give the competion a run for its money. the same will be said about the 5.3 in a few years, it is also bullet proof.

All this being said, I love fords and fully recognize that ford put out some incredible engines that chevy couldn't touch, the 427 side oiler, the 428FE, and sorry but in stock form the 375 horse 396 was tough competition for any stock 429. Mopars 428 was untouchable to all and always will be. (not new hemi, they suck)

this is not a complaint or knocking fords in any way, simply showing people that not everything else sucks. The only thing I will critisize ford for is why three bellhousings?????? huh? why?? stupid stupid stupid!! just one more thing chevrolet had figured out.
 
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Old Nov 10, 2008 | 12:12 AM
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and yes the 383 was also a mopar engine, pretty hot one at that
 
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