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Old Nov 1, 2008 | 03:51 PM
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Grill frame and tail gate

I have a 1975 f250 is the grill front end (fenders grill) and the tail gate the same as the F150 explorer here for sale?


Why can't I contact this guy we are both in IOWA?
 
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Old Nov 1, 2008 | 04:00 PM
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are they both the same year/or year period? I think the explorer tailgate is just a different trim everything else is going to be the same
 
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Old Nov 1, 2008 | 07:22 PM
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IowaHighboy; Welcome to FTE; the reason to your second question; is because I beleive you have to have 25 post prior to gaining certain site privilege's
Hey before you know it you'll pass the miniumim in no time.

Again Welcome aboard....

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Old Nov 2, 2008 | 06:56 AM
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Welcome to FTE

There's only one Styleside tailgate used 1973/79.

The anodized aluminum grille frame is the same 1973/77.

There is no Explorer only tailgate trim panel.

The bright aluminum center trim panel with the F O R D letters was standard equipment all models except Customs.

The upper trim panel with a black applique was standard on Ranger XLT's and Lariats.

 
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Old Nov 2, 2008 | 07:29 AM
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Originally Posted by NumberDummy

The upper trim panel with a black applique was standard on Ranger XLT's and Lariats.


Maybe Lariat's but it was not standard on a Ranger XLT.

I bought this truck, a 79 Ranger XLT, brand new from Ford and it does not have the trim panel.



My current 79 F-250 Ranger XLT does not have that panel.



I have seen countless Ranger XLT's without that panel.

Here is a picture of a gate I bought that does have the panel, unfortunately I don't know what model it came off of.



but I'm still waiting to see some proof for the solid black molding that was used on the dentsides that you had spoke of in a different thread.

Maybe, just maybe Bill the catalogues are wrong?
 
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Old Nov 2, 2008 | 01:40 PM
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Originally Posted by ranger429
but I'm still waiting to see some proof for the solid black molding that was used on the dentsides that you had spoke of in a different thread.
Lemme know if you find any, cuz there's no such thing, and I never said there was.

The upper mouldings that were offered on Customs were not as wide as the vinyl insert mouldings used on Rangers, etc.

The insert (center) section was painted black. There were no vinyl inserts used with these narrower mouldings. The rest of the moulding was anodized aluminum.

EXTERIOR MOULDING SECTION F / PAGE 7: Cab/Fender Upper Mouldings / Page 27: Bed Mouldings.

Captions read: W/O VINYL INSERTS / Check it out yourself, you can buy a CD of this same 1973/79 Ford LIGHT truck parts catalog from hipoparts.com for about 25 bucks.

Make sure it's the LIGHT truck catalog. The HEAVY truck catalog covers BIG trucks: F600's etc, C Series, LN Series, etc.
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Parts catalogs are rarely wrong, as every year, they're updated at least four times to add new info, correct errors.

1973/79: There were 64 parts catalog changes thru the last printing of 10/88.
 
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Old Nov 2, 2008 | 06:24 PM
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Originally Posted by NumberDummy
Lemme know if you find any, cuz there's no such thing, and I never said there was.

Well then maybe you can define what exactly this post meant? I didn't see any mention of the insert being painted.

The upper side mouldings were available on Customs as an option, but were painted black, they didn't come with vinyl inserts. They were also smaller in width.
Here is the link for the thread: Post #19 https://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/7...hinking-2.html

The upper mouldings that were offered on Customs were not as wide as the vinyl insert mouldings used on Rangers, etc.

I knew that

The insert (center) section was painted black. There were no vinyl inserts used with these narrower mouldings. The rest of the moulding was anodized aluminum.

I guess I should of assumed that is what you meant from your previous post

EXTERIOR MOULDING SECTION F / PAGE 7: Cab/Fender Upper Mouldings / Page 27: Bed Mouldings.

Captions read: W/O VINYL INSERTS / Check it out yourself, you can buy a CD of this same 1973/79 Ford LIGHT truck parts catalog from hipoparts.com for about 25 bucks.

No thanks. I have all the info I need that pertains to these trucks and it is all Ford literature

Make sure it's the LIGHT truck catalog. The HEAVY truck catalog covers BIG trucks: F600's etc, C Series, LN Series, etc.
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Parts catalogs are rarely wrong, as every year, they're updated at least four times to add new info, correct errors.

So then maybe you could explain why my brand new 1979 F-150 Ranger XLT that I bought from Ford in 1979 did not have that black applique on the tailgate.

1973/79: There were 64 parts catalog changes thru the last printing of 10/88.
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Old Nov 3, 2008 | 12:59 AM
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The CD was scanned from an actual Ford parts catalog, so while the CD isn't Genuine Ford, the contents are.

I'm not using this catalog, all mine are either on microfiche or are the loose leaf versions placed in huge binders.

If you were closer, I'd give you one of these extra loose leaf catalogs, but I'm not shipping them.

Stacked on top of each other, the text/illustrations are almost 3' tall, weigh a ton.

When D was here, I rarely posted in this forum except to type part numbers. D, IMO is the guru on these trucks.

Now that he's gone, peeps have asked me to post here more often, but I'm getting rather tired of arguing over what Ford did/didn't do.

I spend hours a day researching/typing part numbers, then search for them if obsolete, post what I find.

How many other peeps are doing this here, or in any other forum? None.

The reference to the narrow mouldings:

I should have made it clear that these mouldings are anodized with a black painted center section.
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From now on, you can type all the info when peeps ask questions about what went where, what truck used this, what truck used that.

I'll just type part numbers...if someone requests something.
 
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Old Nov 3, 2008 | 05:52 AM
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The thought of giving me that catalog was a nice jesture, thank you.

Also thanks for what you do for FTE.

No I don't care to look up part numbers for people all day long, that is your choice that you made to do. When something is mentioned that is not correct I feel it should be brought up so as not to lead people into thinking it is correct. If you think it is arguing that's your opinion. I feel it is more about getting the facts straight.

The black applique panel was not standard equipment on a Ranger XLT, this I know for a fact.
 
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Old Nov 3, 2008 | 06:45 AM
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D3TZ-99425A34-B .. Tailgate Finish Panel-Upper-Black Applique

If this finish panel was not standard equipment on XLT's, mebbe you can tell us what it was used on.

I've never seen one on anything else other than 1973/79 XLT's & Lariats.
 
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Old Nov 3, 2008 | 07:00 AM
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Originally Posted by NumberDummy
D3TZ-99425A34-B .. Tailgate Finish Panel-Upper-Black Applique

If this finish panel was not standard equipment on XLT's, mebbe you can tell us what it was used on.

I've never seen one on anything else other than 1973/79 XLT's & Lariats.
Bill did you not see the picture above? I bought that truck BRAND NEW FROM FORD. It does not have the panel and it is a Ranger XLT! Was that the only Ranger XLT that "slipped" thru the back door without one?

You made the statement that it is STANDARD on Ranger XLT's and Lariat's, not me.
 
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Old Nov 3, 2008 | 10:09 AM
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Originally Posted by ranger429
Bill did you not see the picture above? I bought that truck BRAND NEW FROM FORD. It does not have the panel and it is a Ranger XLT! Was that the only Ranger XLT that "slipped" thru the back door without one? You made the statement that it is STANDARD on Ranger XLT's and Lariat's, not me.
Well....parts catalog sez THAT about XLT's and Lariats.

I don't remember what my '79 Lariat came with, and I have have no pics of the aft end.

Why your truck didn't come with one, I dunno.
 
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Old Nov 3, 2008 | 11:14 AM
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I wonder if they were standard equip. on the XLT's until the Lariat was introduced, then standard only on the Lariat and "available" on the XLT? I thought at one time I also read something about it having to do with racetrack trim on certain models. Who knows? Certainly not I!!
 
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Old Nov 3, 2008 | 11:47 AM
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The Lariat was introduced in 78 so I doubt that is correct NOCO.

Parts catalog or not I still stand by my statement of the panel not being standard on an XLT. Like the old saying goes, a picture is worth a thousand words.
 
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Old Nov 3, 2008 | 11:53 AM
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Originally Posted by ranger429
The Lariat was introduced in 78 so I doubt that is correct NOCO.

Parts catalog or not I still stand by my statement of the panel not being standard on an XLT. Like the old saying goes, a picture is worth a thousand words.
One picture of one 1979, out of how many 1973/79 XLT's produced?

You're only going by what you yourself had, so can you truely state that about 1000's of other 1973/79 XLT's?

And...I ask you again, if the upper panel was not standard on XLT's, what else would it have been used on?
 
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