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Old Oct 30, 2008 | 01:27 PM
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'96 lower ball joint replacement?

So - Haynes says you need to replace the whole lower control arm, and I've seen some people on the web say 'No', you can replace JUST the b.j.'s, but I'm not sure I'm buying that - actually got new b.j.'s (O.E. brand) by themselves and was about to get into it.

Is the control arm not substantial enough to withstand having the joints driven/pulled out - and pressed back in? I do see that my new b.j.'s have ribbed boss on the body - does this mean what I think it does, that they are meant to be an interferance fit, and possibly the arm CAN'T be rebuilt?

Not sure who to believe - figured you Ford folk can steer me straight - I want it done right, and will get what tools I don't have, but I WON'T have a shop do for me what I can do myself.

Thanks for any replies,
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Old Oct 30, 2008 | 02:19 PM
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I replaced both lowers on my 96 without even removing the control arms. They can be replaced "simply" by removing the old ones and pressing in the new ones. Uppers are built into the control arms and must be replaced as a unit.

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Old Oct 31, 2008 | 10:08 AM
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They can be replaced separately - you need a press though they can be rented
 
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Old Nov 1, 2008 | 05:30 PM
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How are you getting the ball joints out? I have a C press on them and have heated the A arm with a torch around the joint. I have put enough pressure on it to indent the top of the joint. It appears to me that that large flange on the lower side of the A arm is a part of the old ball joint(?) or is rolled in place after the original part is in place. I have tried with the adapter of the press on the flange and with it off of the flange. It does not fit square on anything if I use the adapter that fits around the flange. Makes me want to choke an engineer that will take something relatively simple and make it nonreplaceable. (Sorry. Just had to vent a little.) Guess I should say that this is on a 96 Explorer 4wd
 
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Old Nov 1, 2008 | 07:47 PM
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How are you getting the ball joints out? I have a C press on them and have heated the A arm with a torch around the joint. I have put enough pressure on it to indent the top of the joint. It appears to me that that large flange on the lower side of the A arm is a part of the old ball joint(?) or is rolled in place after the original part is in place. I have tried with the adapter of the press on the flange and with it off of the flange. It does not fit square on anything if I use the adapter that fits around the flange. Makes me want to choke an engineer that will take something relatively simple and make it nonreplaceable. (Sorry. Just had to vent a little.) Guess I should say that this is on a 96 Explorer 4wd
Not sure what problem your having there. of course you did remove the locking retainer and you are pushing or driving it out down through the a-arm. ive done lots of these in my shop now sometimes only using a pall peen hammer do be carefull to adequately support the a-arm on the under side. I usually use a couple scraps of 2x4 built up on each side to allow room for the ball joint to move, and I always use Aero-Kroil penetrant spray and soak them down good 15 minutes or so before getting nasty with em.
 
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Old Nov 1, 2008 | 08:37 PM
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Thanks Boots. Yep the snap ring is out,and I am pressing them in the direction of the floor, which would be past the snap ring groove. I put Kroil on them last saturday, and again today, after getting the tire off. That Koil is good stuff. With the heat of the torch burning out what grease remained, and destroying theh boot, it has to be replaced. The A-arm is unavailable from Auto Zone, none in the three nearest warehouses for O'Reilly. Napa and Dust&Sons are closed till Monday, so it will be later in the week before I get an A-arm. How much trouble is it to get the torsion bar off?
 
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Old Nov 2, 2008 | 02:23 PM
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first of all you should not heat the arm. supposedly this is very bad on the material and can cause it to lose strength. i replaced the lowers on an '01 sport trac. I tried the press and couldn't get it to fit right. I ended up just beating them out with a hammer without too much trouble and pretty much beating them back in from the bottom with the old nut on the threads. they seem to be fine. I would recommend getting the bjs with a grease fitting so you can grease them from time to time (stock ones dont have a grease fitting).
 
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Old Nov 2, 2008 | 04:10 PM
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Thanks Boots. Yep the snap ring is out,and I am pressing them in the direction of the floor, which would be past the snap ring groove. I put Kroil on them last saturday, and again today, after getting the tire off. That Koil is good stuff. With the heat of the torch burning out what grease remained, and destroying theh boot, it has to be replaced. The A-arm is unavailable from Auto Zone, none in the three nearest warehouses for O'Reilly. Napa and Dust&Sons are closed till Monday, so it will be later in the week before I get an A-arm. How much trouble is it to get the torsion bar off?
The torsion bar is not so tricky as it is dangerous!! lift the car by the frame so the suspension hangs down. set your jack stands! remove the cover of the rear portion of the torsion i think its 3 bolts without looking. before unscrewing the torsion bolt count the threads or measure the length sticking down past the retainer. unscrew the bolt the whole way, now this is not enough to unload all the pressure. heres the tricky.. take a GOOD 2 jaw gear puller and hook on the torsion frame housing and run the screw up into the provided pocket on the torsion arm that pocket is for removing make darn certain your puller arms are secure it is best to use the kind of puller with the set screws here i have done this with plain pullers just be carefull watch your doing now you run the puller screw up high enough to allow the retainer to come out the unscrew your puller the torsion will now be unloaded. same in reverse for assembly. just go slow and keep your hands out of danger and head!!
 
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Old Nov 3, 2008 | 08:55 PM
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Thanks again to all who have answered. Found out that the ball joints will indeed come out. Took the lower arm off of the vehicle, and put it in the shop press, shimming and cradling it on the press plates to get a straight push. also leaving room for that large diameter flange on the factory ball joint. Still took a fair amount of pressure, but then most things do. The flange below the A-arm that I was refering to is part of the ball joint. I was making the mistake of putting the collar of the C press on it. The collar needs to go around it, 2 5/8 inside diameter will fit around it. Then I won't be pressing against myself. It does not sit well on the a-arm, so before I do another one, I will make a collar (that fits the shape of the arm better), and use the C-press. So to anybody thinking about doing it yourself, I would say go ahead. It's still not a hard job, I just made more frustration for myself.
 
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Old Nov 20, 2008 | 04:50 PM
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This is the thread I followed to replace the lower bj's on my 1999. Have done it on both sides. Has great detail and is actually how I found FTE.

https://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/2...ll-joints.html
 
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Old Nov 20, 2008 | 05:21 PM
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Thank you -
Have you ever tried the upper B.J.s? I can't believe the minimal clearance to get the driver's side rear pivot bolt out - absolutely ridiculous.
 
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Old Nov 20, 2008 | 10:58 PM
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Haven't done the uppers yet, although one is starting to make some noise. I did push some grease in it the other day to quiet it down and put off chaning them.
 
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