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Old Oct 20, 2008 | 11:49 AM
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1966 F100 - wiring problem

Hi,

My Alt gage wasn't working, after a short drive it would ping up high around 50 volts and smoked started filing up behind the glass and then coming throught dash.

I have a new gauge and wired it up.

When I was under the dash I removed the radio. I cut a power line, removed the antenna wire, the speaker wire for the single speaker.

Now my amps looked good and steady around 12 or 13 when I turn the key, but the headlights will not go on, the starter does not engage, it is like it is none of the components are getting electrical current.
Did I break circuit by removing radio? How do I fix?

I am reading book on auto wiring and have ordered wiring diagram, but I am very novice and would like to get my old ford truck healthy again. Any comments or advice on what to do next would be appreciated.

Mike
 
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Old Oct 20, 2008 | 02:48 PM
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Did you unscrew the dash cluster and pull it out a little bit ??? On the backside of the speedo is an instrument voltage regulator...its a small rectangular part held on by one screw and has 2 plug in blade wires. It is not uncommon for these to go belly up...you mentioned that the alt gauge would peg high...did you replace the alternator and does this truck have the sweep speedo with the accessory oil pressure and alt. gauges on either end of the cluster ??? If it had these accessory gauges, I have heard of those accy. alt gauges going bad too...but if the problem persists even with a new gauge, I would go look at the ICVR. Its part number is B9MZ10804C its last application I see in my book is 66 trucks. If you want an OE one, I have several of them.


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Old Oct 21, 2008 | 05:57 AM
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Originally Posted by camperspecial65
Did you unscrew the dash cluster and pull it out a little bit ??? On the backside of the speedo is an instrument voltage regulator...its a small rectangular part held on by one screw and has 2 plug in blade wires. It is not uncommon for these to go belly up...you mentioned that the alt gauge would peg high...did you replace the alternator and does this truck have the sweep speedo with the accessory oil pressure and alt. gauges on either end of the cluster ??? If it had these accessory gauges, I have heard of those accy. alt gauges going bad too...but if the problem persists even with a new gauge, I would go look at the ICVR. Its part number is B9MZ10804C its last application I see in my book is 66 trucks. If you want an OE one, I have several of them. - cs65
Usually when the ICVR goes bad, it only affects the fuel and temp gauges, causing the needles to swing wildly back and forth on their own.

The ICVR has nothing to do with the starter not engaging, the lights not to work, loss of electrical power.

The OP says he CUT a "power line." I wonder if it was pink in color?

If so, that's the ballast resistor wire from the ignition switch to the coil.

If that wire is cut, you aren't going anywhere.

I also wonder if the OP removed a battery cable before before working under the dash?

COLF12250A (Motorcraft DY37)

61.50" long / Color coded pink / 1.30 to 1.40 ohms resistance / #20 gauge wire.

Fits: All 1960/72 cars & trucks.

This wire is obsolete, no longer available from Ford.

Try NAPA, they can cross the Motorcraft number over to their brands.
 
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Old Oct 21, 2008 | 10:32 AM
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For ND does the truck have a fusable link for the feed wire going into the cab ?
with the ampmeter going to 50 and smoking I susect a short that may have burned something
I don't have any of my books here and can't remember the exact wiring on a '66
 
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Old Oct 21, 2008 | 11:27 AM
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The Power line I cut, was a line leading to the radio. I disconnected the antena which I beleive also acts as a ground.

My fuel and temp gauges have always worked fine.

Yes, I disconnected both battery cables before I did any work.

Never seen any pink wires, so...

I guess I need to spend more time reading wiring book.

Thanks everyone for the help. If you have any other ideas please throw them out.
 
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Old Oct 21, 2008 | 11:30 AM
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Also, the smoke was coming from the gauge or near it. Since I put new gauge in it registers around 12 volts and is steady and no smoke, but no juice to car either
 
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Old Oct 21, 2008 | 11:58 AM
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Originally Posted by Computermike
Also, the smoke was coming from the gauge or near it. Since I put new gauge in it registers around 12 volts and is steady and no smoke, but no juice to car either
you are stating new guage reading volts,stock guage was ampmeter
volt meters and ampmeters don't wire up the same
 
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Old Oct 21, 2008 | 12:34 PM
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1965/66 F100/350 Amp Gauge / 1966/77 Bronco

Originally Posted by rbaker6336
you are stating new guage reading volts,stock guage was ampmeter
volt meters and ampmeters don't wire up the same
When the OP said he got a new gauge and wired it up...I thought WTF?

C5TZ10850B .. Amp Gauge has been obsolete for 20 years!

This is the type that fits into the round cluster.

Also used in 1966/77 Bronco's.

Dale King Obsolete Parts in Liberty KY has TWO = 606-787-5031

Green Sales in Cincinnati OH has ONE = 800-543-4959

Don Sanderson Ford in Glendale AZ has TWO = 623-842-8762

Ed Bennett Ford Parts in Lebanon PA has ONE = 717-272-8762

That's it...no other Ford dealer or obsolete parts seller has any.

No one has the round amp gauge either.

RBaker6336: No fusible link is listed in the parts catalog till 1969.
 
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Originally Posted by NumberDummy
When the OP said he got a new gauge and wired it up...I thought WTF?


RBaker6336: No fusible link is listed in the parts catalog till 1969.
I thought I remembered it was in that time frame but wasn't sure
 
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