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Old Oct 18, 2008 | 03:59 PM
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Cold Start Problem

I Have A 1999 F-450 Psd Made In 03/99 If The Truck Sits Overnight Its Almost Impossable To Start Any Temp. Outside. Plug It In For 2 Hours And It Starts But Very Rough.you Can Put The Pedal To The Floor With No Gain In Rpms.when It Gets To Operating Temp.it Runs Close To Normal With A Stutter Like A Gasser Missing. 7mpg Smoothes Out When Turbo Kicks In. I Have Ae Scan Tool Pulls No Codes But Cct #8 4.1 Had A New Injector Installed In # 8 O Rings Seals Gasket Also New. Good Icp Pressure Clean Ebp Tube. Any Ideas Thanks
 
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Old Oct 18, 2008 | 04:07 PM
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So it has a miss throughout the entire operating range (bone cold to fully warm)? How many miles? GPR been replaced or ohmed out? Glowplugs? Full of good, clean oil? Just trying to narrow it down here.
 
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Old Oct 18, 2008 | 04:27 PM
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Glow Plugs And Controller Good New Oil And Filter New Fuel Filterchecked Everything I Can Think Of W/ae. Unplugged Icp No Change For Better. M.a.p Good Hpop Good Pressure ,good Levelits Not Seeping Out.
 
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Old Oct 18, 2008 | 04:33 PM
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Welcome to FTE RedBud. What did you use to pull the codes? Is it PSD compatible?
 
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Old Oct 18, 2008 | 04:41 PM
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Welcome to FTE RedBud. What did you use to pull the codes? Is it PSD compatible?
Somewhere in the confusing typing he said AE Jim
 
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Old Oct 18, 2008 | 04:42 PM
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Originally Posted by UP_There
Somewhere in the confusing typing he said AE Jim
Yes he did my bust.....
 
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Old Oct 18, 2008 | 04:45 PM
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Yes he did my bust.....
I would check the GPR 1st. You can either test for power or jump out the two large terminals to see if she starts better. Like Will had said also. Is the oil clean and full? Proper type? Have you checked the level on the HPOP when it won't start?
 
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Old Oct 18, 2008 | 05:59 PM
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sorry for the confusion

i pulled codes with auto enginuity scan tool.the only code i get is cct fail on #8.this injector was just replaced with a new seal kit and a new valve cover gasket .after sitting all night it starts very hard,start stall start stall,finally start and run rough.push the go peddal to the floor and nothing,no rpm's rising.this happins at any outside temperature.truck stays this way til normal operating temp.it has new oil and filter new fuel filter,glow plug relay and glow plugs ok.hpop at good level in morning after sitting all night.ic pressure good,mass air flow good no change with icp unplugged,good batteries ,good voltage.engine still stumbles a little at normal engine temp.10 times worse when cold.it starts a little easier when plugged in for a hour or two.
 
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Old Oct 18, 2008 | 06:08 PM
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This may be a shot in the dark, but, some of the CPS have been known to throw codes for the #8 injector. Have you ohemd out the UVCH to see if maybe the connector is loose? Or can that be done with the AE. I apologize if that sounded dumb but I'm not familire with what AE can and can't do.
 
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Old Oct 18, 2008 | 06:34 PM
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Thanks for the reply Jim ,no i didn't ohm it out can you tell me what to look for and would a loose harness throw a code.
 
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Old Oct 18, 2008 | 06:36 PM
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I'm not sure, but I'll throw a couple of things out there. Have you tried unplugging the MAP sensor to see if that makes a difference? Does unplugging the EOT (oil temp) sensor to see if it affects anything? Any whistling noises from a closed EBPV?

Have you buzz tested the injectors to make sure you don't have a weak one when the engine is cold that clears up when the oil is warm?
 
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Old Oct 18, 2008 | 06:46 PM
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no difference with map unplugged,eot unplugged no difference just throws ses light,and no whistling i also removed ebp tube and it's clean.
 
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Old Oct 18, 2008 | 06:54 PM
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[quote=REDBUD;6662094].the only code i get is cct fail on #8.this injector was just replaced with a new seal kit and a new valve cover gasket quote]

Im wondering if the UVCH is loose. From the replacement of #8
 
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Old Oct 18, 2008 | 07:01 PM
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i guess i better pull the cover and see. i was just looking elseware before i pulled the cover.is there anything else to look for while i have the valve cover off. would you know if the uvch would throw a code.
 
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Old Oct 18, 2008 | 07:03 PM
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Torque the rocker arm and the injector hold downs.
Rockers 20 ft lbs
Injector hold down bolts 120 in lbs.
 
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