Are you seriously saying that no oil filtration is the same as a 12k OCI? Please remember all the things that the oil system does in our diesels (and certainly be aware of the soot that is generated).

Why not look up what is in the manual before posting questions that really don't offer anything to the reader? The manual says to use Ford filters. It even states that their filters will filter out smaller particles than the will-fits. That is all it needs to say. The oil recommendation on the other hand says to use motorcraft oil or equivalent. The filter recommendation does not say "or equivalent".

Two very common mistakes people make:

1. Some believe that they can skimp on things since they do not see an immediate ill-effect. They do this even though many people say it is unwise. When a series of experts give warnings on something, why oppose it so persistently? There is more design technology and science that goes into parts than most people realize. Clearly there are upgrades for anything, but buying cheaper oil filters are upgrading what??? The only objective is to save a few bucks (and really you can buy the OEM style filters with the patent numbers on sale for less money than any other filter I have seen).

2. Ford does not have to prove anything. They are the ones that can deny your warranty and make you pay if you want your truck back. Then it is up to you to prove your point. While denying warranty claims due to choice of oil filter may be rare, Ford is in financial trouble and will be scrutinizing things more closely. This comes from the dealership.

Who needs the headaches for just a few dollars?

 

OOORAH!!!!!!

 

dude you gotta get to pep boys for some filters, you can even get a fram filter at walmart for under 20!!!!

 

I agree with Bismic also. The oiling system is way too important on these trucks and are responsable for way too many things. I for one will not skimp on filters or change intervals. I change my oil every 4 months wether it needs it or not. I get a UOA and its pice of mind for me. From what I have seen in my years in the repair buisness most of the warranty claims denied are from lack of maintence. Everyone pulls the well I had it changed at, fill in your favorite quick lube, but when it came down to proving it...that was another story. The most important thing with these 6.0's is frequent maintence.

Sarge

 

As I understand it, if Ford or any other manufacturer said you have to use OEM filters to maintain warranty coverage, they would then be required to provide the filters for the scheduled maintenance. So they use all manner of language, that surely must get approval from their legal department, to recommend or encourage the use of OEM filters without actually saying you must use them.

 

"Why not look up what is in the manual before posting questions that really don't offer anything to the reader? The manual says to use Ford filters. It even states that their filters will filter out smaller particles than the will-fits. That is all it needs to say. The oil recommendation on the other hand says to use motorcraft oil or equivalent. The filter recommendation does not say "or equivalent".

You must have a different manual than me then .............. I quote the Ford 6.0 diesel manual -

Use Ford Engine Oil Filter Part No. 3C3Z-6731–AA (FL–2016) or
equivalent. These filters protect your engine by filtering harmful,
abrasive or sludge particles.

I am pursuing this because I know there are a huge number of owners who unwittingly are using the "wrong" filters, and the facts seem to support that in doing so, they will not void their warranty.

For everyone else, just use the Ford filters !!!!

 

I am pursuing it because you have stated you are not convinced damage can be done using the wrong filter. Clearly many experts disagree with you. You state your opinion casting doubt on the statements of many with vast credentials. What is your basis for doing so? Playing devil's advocate - what value does that add?

You are correct on the diesel supplement (I was wrong - it does say equivalent in the supplement) - glad you looked it up and posted it. Even so ..... As far as will-fit filters ---- those that have different dimensions and require adapters, a clear case can be made that they are not equivalent based on configuration, oil bypassing, etc. If an individual has had damage from unwitting use, that is one thing. If they think that they can still use them because someone questions whether or not damage can really occur, that is another. And what does NAPA selling a lot of filters contribute? Again damage is done over time, and folks should be encouraged to make wise choices.

Should it come down to it, the vehicle owner will almost never come out ahead in a warranty battle. The best bet is to avoid them. I will certainly admit, many (if not most) of the serious issues with damage will surface after the warranty period (with possible exception being injector issues) - but most folks buy a diesel for more than 100k life.

Feel free to take the last shot, IMO the thread has nothing left to offer the OP or other readers. There is enough information for folks to make a rational choice.

 

Dude, I wish I could. But this is Canada. Land of retail gouging and even the Fram filter is $28.00 at Walmart. As for Pep boys, we don't have em.


I'm envious......

That's all I got, Thanks guys