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Old Oct 10, 2008 | 10:47 PM
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Anti-Squeak Webbing?

Do most of you use anti-squeak webbing between metal surfaces when you reassemble the body parts?
 
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Old Oct 11, 2008 | 09:17 AM
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fender welting. try a search using those words. And yes, I plan on using the aftermarket stuff...though I'm a long ways from doing that.
 
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Old Oct 11, 2008 | 09:18 AM
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I always liked the look so I used it on the rear fenders and the lower trailing edge of the front fenders. To me, it looks better being used on the more stock looking versions of our trucks.
 
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Old Oct 11, 2008 | 10:23 AM
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I've got some but don't know if I really want to use it. Looking for other options that don't stick out so bad.
 
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Be sure you have the right stuff or name. welting has a ~ 1/4" bead along one edge and a thin flange ~ 1 1/2" wide. Anti-squeak webbing is impregnated woven material ~ 1/4" thick and ~ 2" wide. The former goes between the fenders and cab or box with the bead on the outside. The latter is used on early vehicles (mostly pre WW2) between the body and the frame where the body is bolted directly on top the frame.
 
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Old Oct 11, 2008 | 10:57 AM
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How about if a person was to cut off the rolled portion of the welting so it wouldn't protrude above the panel edge? I think there is also some sort of anti squeek compound available like a putty or perhaps cork would work? Just throwing some ideas out there....
 
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Old Oct 11, 2008 | 11:06 AM
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In the day, panel stamping and fit wasn't what it is today. The heavier ga metal didn't bend as crisp and dies were very expensive to produce so were used far beyond minor wear of the edges and were often repaired or touched up rather than replaced. The welting was used both to cover this misalignment and act as a gasket to keep dirt and water out of the joint. Squeaks were hardly a concern, every vehicle squeaked and rattled!
 
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The anti-squeak I have is woven and measures about 1/16" thick and about 1 1/4" wide. I am not referring to welting. I thought this was used on the F1's. I ordered it from Bob Drake.
 
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Old Oct 11, 2008 | 09:55 PM
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metal to metal

I'm definitely going to use rubber between most metal to metal surfaces to prevent wear, ie fenders to running boards, running boards to frame etc; unless there would be good reason not to. I'd avoid cork or other porous materials as they would retain moisture. IMHO

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neoprene, "dum-dum", or any other modern alternative would work pretty good, I would think.
 
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What is dum dum?
 
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that's that black ever-so-sticky rope caulk used in modern cars.
 
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The anti-squeak I have is woven and measures about 1/16" thick and about 1 1/4" wide. I am not referring to welting. I thought this was used on the F1's. I ordered it from Bob Drake.
I mistakenly ordered anti-squeak for my truck and now have both the welt and anti-squeak. According to the catalog, the anti-squeak is intended to be positioned between the frame and and the body. Ive got about a dozen rolls of the stuff and was ordered in a kit from Mac's or LMC. I don't know what I'm gonna do with the extra ten rolls.......
 
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Yes, that is anti squeak webbing and used between the frame and body. It was also used by layering to shim the body off the frame to align the door etc on early Ford bodies. The actual structure was wood, much of the body panels were nailed to the wood. This made the body rather flexible and the structure prone to shrinking and swelling. If a door was sticking, you would loosen the body bolts and add or subtract a layer of webbing to adjust the fit.
 
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Old Oct 12, 2008 | 10:11 AM
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The only wood used in early Ford bodies was in certian areas of the interior to fasten upolstry to. The bodies were welded and with some panels bolted together. GM did however use lots of wood to join body panels as did other makers. This atests to the survival rate of early Fords verses just about all other makes. Anti-squeek webbing is used where two flush panels will join and welting is not appropriate, like where a lower fender extention meets the main fender, or around the grill opening. Welting is used where two panels join at an angle, like where the fender meets the body. I hope all that makes since. Tom
 
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