That's right Bill you are correct on that. I'm not sure what books list it but Dennis Kolodziej might have some factory info on it. I do remember he said with the 406 to 427 change over so close the 8V setup was available and installed on some of the 62 406 factory LW Galaxies. Ford also sold a "lightweight kit" in 62 for private racers who were not factory sponsored. DST, X Garage and Wayne Assy plant produced these cars mostly for SS/S class. So there is a very good chance there is not much documentation on paper. But if there is either Dennis K or John Vermeersh would have it. I've spoke with Dennis a few times on 406 stuff and he's a wealth of information on the 406 LWG's, Tbolts and pretty much anything performance related from Ford. While most books list the 6 most common 406 blocks Dennis rattled off about another 7-8 that are documented I've never even heard of!! LOL!!!

 

Go to the library and do a little research on your own. If you haven't found the books that are out there in a day or so, I will be glad to site author, book name, and page. I have them all.

 

I know I am correct. I have the books by well respected authors who do their research to prove it. They are all available at the local bookstore or library.

 

I've been racing Fords since the mid 60s and also have all the Ford Muscle parts books and there is no mention of any 8V 406s.

 

If you have the books, either give a reference, that's a cite, and I'll look, otherwise I'm gonna call .

 

Bill I'd be interested to know what books (names and authors) those are when you have the chance. I'd like to see if the library has them or if I can order them from Borders our local book store.

Bear I don't think the 406 8V setup was mentioned in the 69 version Ford Muscle Parts or Off Highway Parts books. But when I was talking to Bill ( Numb Dummy) last he got his hands on a very early 60's copy of a Hipo Performance catalog. There might be some mention of it in there. He'd never seen this one before! Perhaps he'll chime in if he reads this hopefully. Might have been from Holman Moody possibly?? I can't remember exactly.

If anyone wants to read some of the old Ford performance catalogs Mustang Tek has them scanned and can be viewed in the library section at Ford casting ID numbers and part identification info for Mustang Shelby parts Some good test drive and reviews on some of the old muscle cars too.

FWIW....

 

I just acquired six different Ford HiPo Parts Catalogs from the mid 1960's (these pre-date the Muscle Parts Catalogs).

C3AZ-9424-L .. 8V Intake Manifold / Catalog sez use before 1/24/64 / Fits: 1962/63 406.

After 1/24/64, the catalog lists: C3AZ-9424-M.

C3AZ-9424-M was later replaced by C5AZ-9424-C.

Both C3AZ-M & C5AZ-C are also listed in the 1960/64 Passenger Car Parts Catalog.

C3AZ-9424-L is not.

 

So the numbers say it was a 1963 part. Which is when the 427 appeared, so then Ford just retro fitted the 8V to the 406.

 

Interesting! Thanks for posting that Bill.

 

I haven't forgotten.

I was digging thru some other parts catalogs, found duplicates of the hipo catalogs, so one a these days...

 

It's not a retrofit. The catalog cleary states 406 for C3AZ-9424-L.

427's used this one: C3AZ-9424-M later replaced by C5AZ-9424-C.

The 427, as I recall wasn't available till midyear 1963. It debuted along with the Galaxie/Marauder fastbacks refered to as 1963 1/2's by enthusiasts.

3 deuces were also offered on 1962/63 T-Bird's with 390's. The VIN engine code is M.

Most of the 3 deuce setups were installed on the Sport Roadster model.

 

Well, we all know that if Bear didn't see it happen or make it happen himself, then it didn't happen.

Total Performers: Ford Drag Racing in the 1960s by Charlie Morris. Published 2005 by Car Tech. See reference in Chapter 3, page 25 and page 27. See photograph on page 29.

Factory Lightweights: Detroits Drag Racing Specials of the 60s, also by Charlie Morris. Published 2007 by Car Tech. See reference in Chapter 3, page 28. See photograph on page 27.

Note that these references deal primarily with the lightweights driven by Dick Brannan. Like I said in my original post, these two 4-bbl intakes were obviously not available over the counter in 1962 to Joe Average (including you, Bear), but that doesn't mean that they did not exist (maybe without an official part number) and were available to Ford's TOP racers before they were available to the general public the following year.

Mr. Morris is a well known and respected automotive author. If anyone thinks he is wrong, feel free to present YOUR proof.

 

The official FoMoCo part number for the 406 8V intake manifold is C3AZ-9424-L.

C3AZ-9424-M is shown for 427's.

These part numbers come straight from the 1961/67 Ford High Performance Parts Catalog.

This is not a Muscle Parts Catalog, as Ford didn't offer them till late 1968.

The introduction in this particular catalog was written by Ak Miller.

 

Whenever you have the chance Bill. No hurry at all my friend and I VERY much appreciate it!! I hope I can somehow repay the favor sometime.

 

Bill H, thank you very much!! I'll see if the library has them. If not I'll head to Borders and order them. I thought they might be the Charlie Morris books but I didn't know the titles. Don't be to hard on Bear. I can understand his point of view. With all of the myths and hearsay I too like to see actual facts back these things up. But I always try to keep a open mind to everything until they can be proven to be true or not. The factory racers from the day were most always given these parts and as we know many were not available to the average Joes. Some as prototype with SK, XE numbers and some one off experimental.

A friend of mine has a factory prototype 3x2 intake for a 429. One of 3 ever made. His was the only one finished and on a dyno mule in the X garage. The other 2, one was cut up to check the casting porisity and the other never finish machined. After Ford shut down their racing program these and many other experimental parts were buried in a big hole and a parking lot made over them. How this one escaped who knows. But it did. There is a funny story how he almost lost it at the Ford 100th reunion he brought it to. But that's a story for another time. Same guy owns and restored the "Fast Eddie" Boss9 Maverick. Some of you might know him?

These topics are always interesting to me. And become quite informative as this one has. It's been a pleasure to be a part of this one.