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the other day i got .85 of a ton in my 94 and even know i thought the suspension was gunna snap the engine actually seemed to beg for more, it ran better with that much weight
still cant burn those dam 17's off with my auto tranny sadly
300 torque:265ft/lbs at 2000rpm.
302 torque:270-275 at 3200 rpm.
In all fairness, here is the ratings for my truck.
185hp 3,800 RPM
270 lbs./ft. 2,400 RPM
Now, I think the 5.0 H.O. in Mustangs were around 3100/3200 for peak torque, but I've seen in more than one place, and I just found this information now, that the peak torque in the trucks were at 2400 RPM.
hahaha, i love it! anyone ever see the picture of the ford truck loaded down w/ like 2 or 3 insanely fat ladies? then underneath it read: "Ford, for when u really need to haul ***!" that totally came to mind there! ...but for that reason too is why i'm going to lift my truck in the near future...
everybody knows fat chicks cant jump. and yes, The_SnowMan710, i have seen that pic. hilarious.
no offense to fat chicks lol.
I remember reading in diesel power magazine the reason international built ford a v8 diesel powerstroke engine, is because they wanted the truck to have low end torque, but high end horsepower. The only reason they didnt use an i-6 was because they wanted a broader rpm range. Jus something I thought I would throw out there. Dont shoot the messager please, lol. Im not a v-8 muscle head and am looking for a small 6 truck because the 460 is killing me when it comes time to fill up. Just wanted to let you guys know internationals reasoning behind useing a v-8 diesel and not a I-6.
I have almost 10 years of day to day experience with a 300 six Ford. And like many of you have mentioned before, I was planning on swapping in a small block when the six died... well it wouldn't die! I bought my 84 F150 4x4 in the winter of 99 when I was in high school. It was a plain jane six cylinder/ 4 speed manual/ 1/2 ton 4 wheel drive pickup... it already had been worked over pretty hard by the P/O. It rattled like a box of marbles... 5 collapsed lifters, no oil pressure, you name it. I tried to kill it... couldn't and it grew on me. It was starting to get pretty rough though after a while and a neighbor friend talked me into doing a rebuild on it. We pulled the engine and tore it completely down, had it cleaned, hot tanked, and machined. We put it back together with good quality parts including a high volume oil pump and a mild RV type camshaft. It has been nearly 90k of being run hard and hung up wet since the rebuild and it has worked faithfully hard for me. I recently bought a 96 F150 with a 300 six in it, the personality of a carbed version versus a fuelie motor is very noticable. The injected motor is much smoother and more refined. The carbed version is a bit more finicky and runs a tad on the rough side. Both pull hard and run strong. In all actuality I prefer an inline configured engine over a 'V' type for general everyday use. I really don't care for V6s in a fullsize truck application, most lack in the low end grunt department. I also own 2 V8 powered Fords as you can see in my signature. I must say I have grown very fond of my 6.9 liter V8 diesel in my 84 F250. That truck pushes snow and yanks trailers around with the greatest of ease... not too hard on fuel either. The 351m in my 77 runs good too, but for my plans of use in this truck... it's gettin a 460! I look at it this way for every job, there is a size up and a size down hammer to use. I have all the confidence in the world in my 300 Fords... they never let me down.
how many v8 diesels do u see on the road in semi's? not near as many as u do I6's...
international is trying to make v8 for their trucks and every heavy mechanic that ive talked to says its a retarded idea and that it probably wont fly for long...iv seen some big rigs (I6) pushing OVER 2000 hp...I work at peterbilt fixin these trucks and in all my life i have yet to see a v8 in a big rig
bottom line is gasser or diesel I6's kick *** for low end torque and power
Ok the story of why this forum is here has gone on long enough; the English was embarrassing in it to. Just like to say my computer was screwing up and I didn't even know the post was there until today because I just got it back. Glad to see you guys give me a break though
I was towing my friends 80-..Something 1500 to the junkyard cause the motor was fried, While I was towing his truck to the scrap yard he said “yah while my truck could light them up right know at this light on the pavement not like this piece of junk”. I was at a red light and decided to light them up with his 1500 attached to my truck, (on a car dolly). Told him that is what a ford 6 can do. He didn't believe me he said there was no way I didn't have a hopped up v8 under the hood. So that is where I made the 20$ I bet him the 20 bucks and won! Should have seen the look on his face loll. Then he started to come around to likeing fords sold him my old ranger and he loves it!
Though I would share the story 300 ALL THE WAY
The stuff I cut out was just him beaking me before I lit the tires up bout how my fords sucked
Ps- have to apologias for the language (like I said never even knew it posted)
I remember reading in diesel power magazine the reason international built ford a v8 diesel powerstroke engine, is because they wanted the truck to have low end torque, but high end horsepower. The only reason they didnt use an i-6 was because they wanted a broader rpm range. Jus something I thought I would throw out there. Dont shoot the messager please, lol. Im not a v-8 muscle head and am looking for a small 6 truck because the 460 is killing me when it comes time to fill up. Just wanted to let you guys know internationals reasoning behind useing a v-8 diesel and not a I-6.
ya, not to shoot the messenger, but i don't necessarily think v8's are bad, but there have just been very few success stories w/ them, imo. the ford/international 6.0, i think, is a bit of a pooch. the ones that i've ever ran i've had to wrap up to about 3k to get in the power band, and that was w/ the 6 spd manual too...the automatic is even worse. however, i don't really hear too many bad things about the old 6.9's and even less about the 7.3's. ppl even still like to run gm 6.5's too! perhaps this is another testimonial to the ever increasing power robbing capabilities of the modern day emissions...
i do have a post in here somewhere earlier about how international harvester tractors tried to run a v8 diesel, which was a flop, and since then, most of ur ag applications are i6.
international is trying to make v8 for their trucks and every heavy mechanic that ive talked to says its a retarded idea and that it probably wont fly for long...iv seen some big rigs (I6) pushing OVER 2000 hp...I work at peterbilt fixin these trucks and in all my life i have yet to see a v8 in a big rig
bottom line is gasser or diesel I6's kick *** for low end torque and power
ya, i work for a caterpillar dealer here in NE, but am finishing up my last bit of skool right now...i did hear from one of my instructors (a former truck tech) that international was coming out w/ a new truck, even got to see a pic of it...i think they're gonna call them lonestar's or something...
is that seriously what they're gonna put in it tho? i agree, that ain't gonna make it too far. case in point, CAT 3208, (or 32 "oh great" as some have affectionately dubbed it) ...a descent little engine, don't get me wrong, but just not cut out for over the road hauling.
i don't think engineer's will b able to get the cylinder displacement needed out of these v8 configurations that they can out of the i6's to produce the power, w/o the engine tearing itself apart. show me a V8 diesel that can lay down 1350 ft-lbs of torque like a 60 series detroit (an i6, for those unfamiliar) and i would venture to say that i'll lay down a little respect for it.