Damn man that has to suck! I am anxiously waiting to hear what you are planning on doing.

 

Maybe by this weekend i'll have a better idea on what im going to be doing. stay tuned.

 

Some of us would like to know what you think is the reason of all the blowups. I dont think alot of us would be pissed off about your opinion, since you are very smart about these trucks.

 

Your actually not as good at keeping a secret as you think Kris. I've read enough of your posts to have a pretty good idea of your opinion. I was actually referring to how you were able to know your engine was fixing to blow, even before you started having the noticeable issues you posted about.

I'm wondering if you subconsciously picked up on a very slight miss, feel, or noise that indicated your engine was on it's last leg. Something made you think the engine was on it's last leg more than just the PMR's you've had for a few years now. If you can figure out what made you suddenly think this was the end, I'd like to know what it was if you can describe it.

 

ill wait and see whats the look of the rest of the carnage inside.
and as you know Kris i feel bad it happend to you . I know you will have one big **** when you done. at list thats what i think.....

 

I can't find mine. I'm sure it must be lost.

 

The innuendos that the DP Tuner 80hp Economy program are the reason for this, or any other failure is not only laughable, but shows utter lack of knowledge of exactly what happens


Kris, you are a good kid, and I have enjoyed our talks. I know you are most likely upset/dissapointed in what has happened. But I would suggest you gain a full grasp of what happens inside your engine that causes this failure before you back handedly slander a company that has gone out of it's way to help you and had little , to nothing to do with your failure other than supply you with the means (at your request I might add) to push an engine well beyond it's designed capabilities!! Unfortunately, the internet is full of alot of keyboard engineers and people who like to blame other things and people for their misfourtunes. They post all sorts bad information based on little to no experience or facts, and the next thing you know, it is internet law!!

I'm going to give you ALL some facts!!!

1 - The PMR's and Forged Rods frature/break just below the wrist pin due to an inherent weakness in the rod design at that point.

2 - The rods frature WELL BEFORE they eventually let go. The driving situation and/or program setting at the time of failure rarely, if ever, has anything to do with the actual or initial cause of the failure.

3 - The initial damage/fracture tyipically occurs when you are at the strip, pulling track, hammering down the road racing, laying into the throttle when cold, or any of the many other forms of abuse.

4 - The amount of "damage" has nothing to do how bad the failure was. A loose rod on a spinning crank will cause damage to anything it comes in contact with until it stops. It's literatly like taking a driving pin and a sledgehammer to the inside of the block.

5 - I have broken rods in an engine that never saw DP Tuner programing, I have broken rods in engines that never saw the 80hp Economy setting. I have broken rods in engines that were running the 80hp Economy setting. I have broken a rod in engines, only to find that most if not all the other rods were fratured also after having them magnafluxed.

6 - I would conservatively say that 80% of the trucks on these forums run DP Tuner programing. Of those, I would have to say that 80-90% of the time they are running around in the 80hp Economy setting. Now taking the FACTS I have outlined above in mind, what programing and setting is most likely going to be being used when an engine lets go?

7 - AND MOST IMPORTANTLY!!! If you are willing to performance modify you engine, you better be willing, and able to pay the price when it fails, because it will!!!! If not.............LEAVE IT STOCK!!

 

wow, this forum has turned into a bunch of guys who HAVE to be right over everything, Its a public forum, i didnt know i wasnt allowed to post, someone shoulda spoke up and said not to post anything, and if i recall correctly kris posted EVERYTHING that went on about my truck, didnt he? i never even got a chance to post anything, by the time i got back home from working on it it was already posted.

Bunch of cocky people on here.


Edit: and Kris, when we were doing your truck you had a convo with me the day dusty came over and you talked about how much you hated the sound of them and love the sound of the 7.3 and were talking about doing what i did but with a girdle and all of the bigger better mods, obviously your pain medicines are that good.

 

Good post Greg. I simply choose not to start mine anymore.

 

Sorry to hear about your ride Kris. Good luck to yaa and will be awaiting the bits and pieces and you decision on the project, good luck...

 

Easy Kenny. The demise of one's motor is an emotional thing, but then you have gone through it too. Now you two kiss and make up.

 

Nice post and good info Dockboy. "Lucky" for me mine's still stock.

 

Greg, thanks for the input, as i always value your input, because you probably know more than most anybody on here (or any other forum). With that said, i agree with 100% of your points you posted out, especially the last one. I would have left it stock however i knew i was playing with fire. In no way AT ALL am i blaming DP tuner or Jody, or Diane or any of his tunes for making my truck throw the rod (s) like it did. I know that PMR's basically suck. I wanted more power at the time, and i knew i was playing with fire, and i got burnt. It's simple, and like #7, i gotta pay to play, and believe me, im going to pay, LOL.

 

Ill leave this comment at this: He's pissed/irritated at me, and the "cocky" people on this forum know what i've actually told them, and they know the truth, they are on the same page as me. Ive been texting him all day and in a nutshell ive been trying to explain that it was my problem that my truck blew up, i sent him a picture, and i texted/called a few people who i wanted to know. I was going to post the thread when i got home, on my own will. I guess it all comes down to as the expression "stealing the thunder". Im sorry if i came off like a dick, keep in mind all the other things that ive gone through last evening/this morning. Now i guess we can close this thread as it's going downhill from here, what else is to say.. Im going to post my own thread here in a min.

 

And another thing, i feel like a whiney bitch blowing up my motor for the first time (even though im not really suprised, mad, or whining) compared to Dockboy who has perfected the art of blowing up engines. BTW greg, is your truck back together? Im expecting to see it october