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Old Sep 15, 2008 | 11:36 PM
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When you have enough traction, and enough horsepower, even Chro-mo D60F's can break too;
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Old Sep 16, 2008 | 06:42 AM
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Yes chromo's break to, but not as easily, as for the chromo d60f thats not something you see everyday... Takes some power to break one of them..
 
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Old Sep 16, 2008 | 08:42 AM
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Chromos in a 60 is the cat's azz.
 
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Old Sep 16, 2008 | 10:01 AM
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Originally Posted by Truckin4life
Yes chromo's break to, but not as easily, as for the chromo d60f thats not something you see everyday... Takes some power to break one of them..

You are very right. Dont see busted Chro-mo 60's everyday. Matter of fact a few guys came over to ooooh, and aaaah after they heard of the break.
It is rather rare, and it requires some puppy power to do that. This break was also only with 39.5" Boggers. Giant boulders were a factor, and it took out the axle stub, hub, and knuckle. It did not break the lockouts, thank goodness.
To this day, I have never layed eyes on a broken stub shaft, and never thought I would ever see a broken chro-mo stub.
Crazy things happen off road, abd trying to understand the loads that these components have to withstand is probably something that none of us can really appreciate.
I am pretty much at the end of upgrades for my axle, and while it is fixed again, I do not feel confident that this won't happen again.
I have ordered aftermarket knuckles, and have my mind set on Longfields.
Probably should have gone with the Longfield route, but did not feel it would be necessary, much like many people.
I hate throwing money at something, and then having to throw more money after a short peroid of time. Think about the waste of money I already have in chro-mo axles, and now still need something a little better.
Back to the topic. Even a chro-mo 44 has a great chance of breaking.
Just because the 60 would require a little more work to install, the peace of mind is that much higher when a bigger axle is in there.
It bugs me when guys settle for second best. I can appreciate that more effort has to be placed into upgrading to a larger axle, but how many times does one have to replace smaller shafts to understand they are spinning thier wheels, or not spinning,as the case may be. (pun intended)
Worst thing that happens during breakage, is that the truck is down, and the fun is over. Really is a bummer when carnage occurs early in the day, or on the first pass. This is not a spectator sport, when you have a capable ride, and it is broken. Broken parts are just not cool, and I build to prevent that.
Call it overkill, but I dont see the downside to this.
When I read that a D60 was not going into the OP's ride, and that one would probably never find its way into the truck because it was too much work, I could hardly believe my eyes.
Just not the way I would do it if I ws chucking parts like that.
Heak, just place a tiny 44 shaft next to a 60 shaft, and tell me which axle would be worth the effort.
Not a bunch of work, and so much stronger...... Just my point of view.
40 inch rubber is big, and probably larger than a D44 is gonna like.
After a chro-mo shaft breaks, there is no place to go except to a 60.
Might as well bit the bullet now.
 
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Old Sep 16, 2008 | 11:23 AM
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nice cranage pics!
40s on a 44... what can I say
 
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Old Sep 16, 2008 | 12:07 PM
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Originally Posted by 75F350
You are very right. Dont see busted Chro-mo 60's everyday. Matter of fact a few guys came over to ooooh, and aaaah after they heard of the break.
It is rather rare, and it requires some puppy power to do that. This break was also only with 39.5" Boggers. Giant boulders were a factor, and it took out the axle stub, hub, and knuckle. It did not break the lockouts, thank goodness.
To this day, I have never layed eyes on a broken stub shaft, and never thought I would ever see a broken chro-mo stub.
Crazy things happen off road, abd trying to understand the loads that these components have to withstand is probably something that none of us can really appreciate.
I am pretty much at the end of upgrades for my axle, and while it is fixed again, I do not feel confident that this won't happen again.
I have ordered aftermarket knuckles, and have my mind set on Longfields.
Probably should have gone with the Longfield route, but did not feel it would be necessary, much like many people.
I hate throwing money at something, and then having to throw more money after a short peroid of time. Think about the waste of money I already have in chro-mo axles, and now still need something a little better.
Back to the topic. Even a chro-mo 44 has a great chance of breaking.
Just because the 60 would require a little more work to install, the peace of mind is that much higher when a bigger axle is in there.
It bugs me when guys settle for second best. I can appreciate that more effort has to be placed into upgrading to a larger axle, but how many times does one have to replace smaller shafts to understand they are spinning thier wheels, or not spinning,as the case may be. (pun intended)
Worst thing that happens during breakage, is that the truck is down, and the fun is over. Really is a bummer when carnage occurs early in the day, or on the first pass. This is not a spectator sport, when you have a capable ride, and it is broken. Broken parts are just not cool, and I build to prevent that.
Call it overkill, but I dont see the downside to this.
When I read that a D60 was not going into the OP's ride, and that one would probably never find its way into the truck because it was too much work, I could hardly believe my eyes.
Just not the way I would do it if I ws chucking parts like that.
Heak, just place a tiny 44 shaft next to a 60 shaft, and tell me which axle would be worth the effort.
Not a bunch of work, and so much stronger...... Just my point of view.
40 inch rubber is big, and probably larger than a D44 is gonna like.
After a chro-mo shaft breaks, there is no place to go except to a 60.
Might as well bit the bullet now.
I guess i forgot to mention that i didnt really need anyone's opinion on what axle THEY think i should have.
 
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Old Sep 16, 2008 | 12:26 PM
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Originally Posted by ibleedblue1385
I guess i forgot to mention that i didnt really need anyone's opinion on what axle THEY think is should have.
lol i've been down your train of thought myself (swapped in D44HD in the bronco at first) and quickly realized the D60 cromo's were a must even with 39's! now i have every bit of confidence even making the move to 42's (whenever they decide to release them).

we just *freely* give personal advice since this is a public forum and thats half the point. now if you dont feel its worth it there is nothing else we can do except send you some luck, sooooo......

good luck!

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Old Sep 16, 2008 | 12:29 PM
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Originally Posted by fishmanndotcom
lol i've been down your train of thought myself (swapped in D44HD in the bronco at first) and quickly realized the D60 cromo's were a must even with 39's! now i have every bit of confidence even making the move to 42's (whenever they decide to release them).

we just *freely* give personal advice since this is a public forum and thats half the point. now if you dont feel its worth it there is nothing else we can do except send you some luck, sooooo......

good luck!

-cutts-

Just preachin' to the choir i guess. Believe me, i know the strength differenced between a 44 and 60.
 
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Old Sep 16, 2008 | 10:18 PM
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44 HD has 8 lugs
44 has 5

Big Bronco, F150, F250 LD and 250 HD all use the same axle shafts.

235/85-16 tires, a snow plow under a diesel, I did that at least once every winter plowing.

God I love my 60, I had not seen that for three years now.
When you can twist off an axle with the truck on ice, there is something wrong.
D 44 was the problem I found.
 
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Old Sep 16, 2008 | 10:28 PM
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Originally Posted by Dave Sponaugle
44 HD has 8 lugs
44 has 5

Big Bronco, F150, F250 LD and 250 HD all use the same axle shafts.

235/85-16 tires, a snow plow under a diesel, I did that at least once every winter plowing.

God I love my 60, I had not seen that for three years now.
When you can twist off an axle with the truck on ice, there is something wrong.
D 44 was the problem I found.
now dave... he SAID he does NOT need anyones opinion, even though some of us have been there! SO QUIT WITH THE OPINIONS!

i'll stick to my cromo'd 60 any day, all day

it's kind of like my dad always told my mom "dear, he will learn much faster by screwing up than having you talk him to death". yea, hell yea i grabbed the hot pot on the stove but i didnt hang on to it for long and still to this day i dont just grab one up!

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Old Sep 17, 2008 | 08:12 PM
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Hmmm... sas.... or rock swap... ibleedblue... that was a hint at you, im just messin with ya though man...
 
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Old Sep 17, 2008 | 08:19 PM
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Sorry, but you know what they say about opinions.

As many axle shafts as I broke while plowing snow on slick pavement I can't imagine running big tires in mud on a 44 axle.
And every time I broke one, they looked exactly like the picture above.

Both yokes trashed, and little or no U joint to be found.

The local salvage yard always kept one complete shaft for each side on the shelf with my name on them.
They almost cried when I told them I swapped in a D 60.
 
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Old Sep 17, 2008 | 08:48 PM
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Chromos in a 60 is still the schizzle.

Ok, sorry. Not trying to tell you what you should run.

Hell, there's no way I could afford chromos for my 60 just now.
 
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Old Sep 17, 2008 | 09:05 PM
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if thats the case then what is chromo's in rocks equal? The bomb diggity? lol
 
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Old Sep 17, 2008 | 10:20 PM
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I told you so?

lol
 
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