Block Casting Numbers for a 262
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Block Casting Numbers for a 262
Hi folks,
I've just bought a 1963 F100 short bed stepside with a blown engine. Literally a hole in the block so it's not rebuildable. The truck is in excellent shape and virtually rust free and I'm thinking I'd like to find a near original engine to put in it. I think it had a 262 originally. The VIN starts F10BR****** and the data plate says "132 HP 3600 RPM". Does that indicate a 262?
I'm starting to hunt the local boneyards and websites looking for a rebuildable engine and I want to be able to tell the difference between a 223 and a 262. After looking at a number of websites that deal with visually identifying a 262, here's my real question: does anybody know if there are block casting codes that definitively identify a 262? Thanks for your help!
I've just bought a 1963 F100 short bed stepside with a blown engine. Literally a hole in the block so it's not rebuildable. The truck is in excellent shape and virtually rust free and I'm thinking I'd like to find a near original engine to put in it. I think it had a 262 originally. The VIN starts F10BR****** and the data plate says "132 HP 3600 RPM". Does that indicate a 262?
I'm starting to hunt the local boneyards and websites looking for a rebuildable engine and I want to be able to tell the difference between a 223 and a 262. After looking at a number of websites that deal with visually identifying a 262, here's my real question: does anybody know if there are block casting codes that definitively identify a 262? Thanks for your help!
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The B is the VIN code for the 262, R is the San Jose plant, These engines have small aluminum ID tags commonly removed over the course of time and tossed for whatever reason...BUT if there is one and if it was in its original location, the tag would be bolted to the engine using the coil retaining bracket bolt...the tag will have the CID of the engine, its build date spproximate and revision level of the engine assembly.
I hope this helps, cs65
I hope this helps, cs65
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The 1961/64 262 and the 1960/64 223 look identical (prior 223's use a different valve cover and head).
The block casting number won't help a bit, because...
Casting numbers cannot be cross referenced to actual part numbers. So, there's no way to determine what size the engine is from casting numbers.
While your truck originally came with a 262, after 45 years, and lawd knows how many owners, what engine does it have now?
The only way to determine what is truely is ...is to measure the stroke.
Stroke: 223 = 3.60" / 262 = 4.03"
The 1961/64 262 and the 1960/64 223 look identical (prior 223's use a different valve cover and head).
The block casting number won't help a bit, because...
Casting numbers cannot be cross referenced to actual part numbers. So, there's no way to determine what size the engine is from casting numbers.
While your truck originally came with a 262, after 45 years, and lawd knows how many owners, what engine does it have now?
The only way to determine what is truely is ...is to measure the stroke.
Stroke: 223 = 3.60" / 262 = 4.03"
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Another member once reported that his 262 from a 1963 F100 has the number C1TE-6015-B cast into the side.
I have two 262 engines from 1964 F100s, and the same number, C4TE-6015-C , is cast into both blocks.
One sure way to identify a 262 block from a distance is to look at the strengthening ribs cast into the driver's side. There will be a horizontal ridge along the bottom of the block that the oil pan bolts into, and then two horizontal strenthening ribs running nearly the length of the block....one just below the dipstick, and another just above the dipstick. The 223 only has one of the strengthening ribs, and I believe it's located just below the dipstick.
I have two 262 engines from 1964 F100s, and the same number, C4TE-6015-C , is cast into both blocks.
One sure way to identify a 262 block from a distance is to look at the strengthening ribs cast into the driver's side. There will be a horizontal ridge along the bottom of the block that the oil pan bolts into, and then two horizontal strenthening ribs running nearly the length of the block....one just below the dipstick, and another just above the dipstick. The 223 only has one of the strengthening ribs, and I believe it's located just below the dipstick.
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Thank you folks! This all helps me. I'll let you know what I turn up. If there's anybody out there in the Seattle or western Washington area with an appropriate vintage 262 or 223 for sale, I'd like to talk to you.
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I dont have any leads on the engine, but if you need anything else, give a holler as Im also in the Puget Sound area...and loving todays sun...
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262 ID
If your Carb and exhaust is on the driver side of engine it is an 262. I have a running 262 from a Goverment special order 66 F100. Runs great with new overhaul before last own went to prision (life) and the milage is very low (20356) have Manny tranny if you need the too. I hope you are still checking thread. Steven @520-850-5920.
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Another member once reported that his 262 from a 1963 F100 has the number C1TE-6015-B cast into the side.
I have two 262 engines from 1964 F100s, and the same number, C4TE-6015-C , is cast into both blocks.
One sure way to identify a 262 block from a distance is to look at the strengthening ribs cast into the driver's side. There will be a horizontal ridge along the bottom of the block that the oil pan bolts into, and then two horizontal strenthening ribs running nearly the length of the block....one just below the dipstick, and another just above the dipstick. The 223 only has one of the strengthening ribs, and I believe it's located just below the dipstick.
I have two 262 engines from 1964 F100s, and the same number, C4TE-6015-C , is cast into both blocks.
One sure way to identify a 262 block from a distance is to look at the strengthening ribs cast into the driver's side. There will be a horizontal ridge along the bottom of the block that the oil pan bolts into, and then two horizontal strenthening ribs running nearly the length of the block....one just below the dipstick, and another just above the dipstick. The 223 only has one of the strengthening ribs, and I believe it's located just below the dipstick.
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Yes, old thread, but always an interesting subject. There were two versions of the 262, the heavy duty and the light duty. The light duty was new for '64, so it makes sense they will have a C4 casting number, while the heavy duty version will have the C1 casting number,
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Lets break this down C1TE
C is the decade B= 50's C=60's D=70's etc
1 is the year
T is the vehicle/ Model A =full size B Bronco 70-73 Etc T = Truck light and medium duty
E is the engineering group A = Light Truck Engineering Division B = Body and Electrical Product Division C = Chassis D = Overseas Product Engineering E = Engine
So C1TE translates to is 1961, truck, engine engineering group.
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223 & 262 were not installed after 1964. 240/300 I-6 introduced in 1965, have the intake/exhaust manifolds located on the right (passenger) side.
I know this is an old thread, but when I noticed what this member typed, I had to correct it.
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B is the suffix, may just be specific in this case to a 262. Casting numbers are foundry marks, cannot be cross referenced to Ford part numbers.