Convert to Triton Engine to CNG
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... It would just be nice to have some purpose built CNG vehicles available for purchase. Only CNG on the market in the US that isn't a conversion to my knowledge is a car from Honda. Oh and a very large infrastructure of CNG filling stations would be nice as well. I have never seen a station with CNG in my necks of the woods.
Also perhaps we are both waiting to see how the future of personal transportation unfolds while keenly interested in all automotive technology...
... which makes this a cool thread!
Oh, and don't forget the Roush F150 aftermarket LP kit (Eight Hours to Affordable Propane Fuel with Install of ROUSH® Conversion Kit - ROUSH Performance Press Release) which may foreshadow HD kits yet to come...
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There was a bi-fuel Superduty back in 2001, at least. It ran on gas/propane or gas/CNG.
I was going to order one, but by the time I was ready, they didn't make them anymore.
I'm not sure if they ever did it for the V8, but I know they did it for the V10.
You might want to check and see if Ford has parts for them still, or if you can find one in a junkyard and scavenge the parts from it.
I was going to order one, but by the time I was ready, they didn't make them anymore.
I'm not sure if they ever did it for the V8, but I know they did it for the V10.
You might want to check and see if Ford has parts for them still, or if you can find one in a junkyard and scavenge the parts from it.
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Ford made factory CNG for the standard duty F-250 with the 5.4L Triton V8. If only you and I could find one and port it over the to Super duty! There are home refueling stations available too. If I did that, it would be less than a $1/GGE so it would take a year to pay for itself. Not to mention the tax credits as you have mentioned.
Here is the DOE's assesment for CNG vs Gasoline F-250: Energy Citations Database (ECD) - Sponsored by OSTI
Here is the DOE's assesment for CNG vs Gasoline F-250: Energy Citations Database (ECD) - Sponsored by OSTI
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How about a flex fuel conversion to ethanol (E85)? I'd think it could be done with mostly Ford parts. Has anyone done that? Not a perfect fueling solution either which makes the fuel flexibility key. I have a flex fuel 00 Voyager minivan which doesn't care what I fill it with. Pretty much a fuel sensor and programming I think....
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Ethanol, I understand, will attack anything made of aluminum. The dissolved aluminum will then plate out on other metals. It'll work great for about a half dozen tanks full and then ... clunk.
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There's nothing aluminum in the fuel system.
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Yeah, my '00 flex fuel minivan hasn't dissolved yet! Most regular gas here is 10% also with no issues for my vehicles.
I know E85 needs to flow more fuel, so bigger injectors make sense. What computer modifications or other sensors (fuel) need to be added? I wouldn't want to go to 100% E85. I'd think an aftermarket unit could look at fuel density and dummy the MAF signal to adjust fuel accordingly.
I know E85 needs to flow more fuel, so bigger injectors make sense. What computer modifications or other sensors (fuel) need to be added? I wouldn't want to go to 100% E85. I'd think an aftermarket unit could look at fuel density and dummy the MAF signal to adjust fuel accordingly.
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When gasoline was peaking I did a little web browsing on the subject of E85 in a non-flex vehicle. There was enough woe in the apocrypha to cause me to forswear E85...
...so I was just trying to pass on what I'd read. Don't know about the actual presence or absence of nuthin', except Murphy's Law...
...so I was just trying to pass on what I'd read. Don't know about the actual presence or absence of nuthin', except Murphy's Law...
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