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Old Aug 29, 2008 | 02:50 PM
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That doesn't make much sense to me, but thanks for clearing it up.
 
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Old Aug 29, 2008 | 04:26 PM
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That doesn't make much sense to me, but thanks for clearing it up.
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These threads are left in here because the webmaster said so.
This will help when Ford people read these forums to find out what customers are looking into.

'nough said about this issue.
To me either, but okay.

Last I checked the '09 Ram isn't out yet, just like the '09 F150. Not as much news about the 150, maybe because they're trying to keep many aspects a secret until the last minute. Maybe it's not all it's cracked up to be. Who knows.
 
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Old Aug 29, 2008 | 07:08 PM
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Originally Posted by LxMan1
These threads are left in here because the webmaster said so.
This will help when Ford people read these forums to find out what customers are looking into.

'nough said about this issue.
Do the Ford decision makers take the time to read this site or inquire about it's contents? Does Ford really care what we want? If they did, not every superduty on the lot would be loaded with $2000 Nav systems and we might see fewer 38k XLT F-150's. We might see more STX or XL 4x4's with workhorse capability. Those who are OK with spending 40k-50k on truck, well, God bless you, I'm not. There isn't a light truck built that's worth that kind of money. I'm sure i'll get blasted for that statement, blast away.

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Old Aug 29, 2008 | 07:17 PM
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Originally Posted by tseekins
Do the Ford decision makers take the time to read this site or inquire about it's contents? Does Ford really care what we want? If they did, not every superduty on the lot would be loaded with $2000 Nav systems and we might see fewer 38k XLT F-150's. We might see more STX or XL 4x4's with workhorse capability. Those who are OK with spending 40k-50k on truck, well, God bless you, I'm not. There isn't a light truck built that's worth that kind of money. I'm sure i'll get blasted for that statement, blast away.

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Not blasting you at all....I think you're right. The loaded $40-50k trucks have been there as "BMW alternatives" for folks who don't need a truck but want to "wear" one.

It is clear that this crowd of truck buyers is going to thin out considerably, leaving more truck buyers to be guys who actually need and use them, even get them dirty and put things in the bed that might scratch it....

And these guys ain't gonna pony up $50k for trucks with nav systems, heated and cooled cupholders, DVD players for each seat, yada yada...

Sadly, though, these are Ford's cash cows, and they're gone...it's gonna be hard to earn cubic $$$ selling Focuses and Fiestas...

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Old Aug 29, 2008 | 10:01 PM
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Originally Posted by tseekins
Do the Ford decision makers take the time to read this site or inquire about it's contents? Does Ford really care what we want? If they did, not every superduty on the lot would be loaded with $2000 Nav systems and we might see fewer 38k XLT F-150's. We might see more STX or XL 4x4's with workhorse capability. Those who are OK with spending 40k-50k on truck, well, God bless you, I'm not. There isn't a light truck built that's worth that kind of money. I'm sure i'll get blasted for that statement, blast away.

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Ford doesn't tell the dealers what they put on their lots.....the dealers order what they'll sell...and they sell tons of nav loaded 40k trucks...


and there are plenty of trucks that are worth the money...sticker on my truck was 43k and i use it as hard as anyone....in a year the bedliner is so beat to heck that i'm thinking of buying a new one....the trailer hitch is in use almost as much as its not.....and i've used all 9500 lbs of towing capacity (plus some) more than a handful of times.....


but the part that really makes it worth the 40k+ price....is that after a run through the car wash...I can take my high end clients out looking without needing a second car or renting something.....
 
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Old Aug 29, 2008 | 11:31 PM
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Ford doesn't tell the dealers what they put on their lots.....the dealers order what they'll sell...and they sell tons of nav loaded 40k trucks...


and there are plenty of trucks that are worth the money...sticker on my truck was 43k and i use it as hard as anyone....in a year the bedliner is so beat to heck that i'm thinking of buying a new one....the trailer hitch is in use almost as much as its not.....and i've used all 9500 lbs of towing capacity (plus some) more than a handful of times.....


but the part that really makes it worth the 40k+ price....is that after a run through the car wash...I can take my high end clients out looking without needing a second car or renting something.....
but a 25k xl wouldbe just as capable,but not as expensive for the people who dont want to spend the extra money
 
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Old Aug 30, 2008 | 01:24 AM
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but a 25k xl wouldbe just as capable,but not as expensive for the people who dont want to spend the extra money
you totally missed his point... how's he gonna take those business partners in a truck with cloth seats that stain from water and cheap plastic interior...
 
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Old Aug 30, 2008 | 12:15 PM
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your right in his case,but a lot of people wont buy trucks to carry clients around,they will use them to work them,and a 25k xl would be just as capable as a loaded 45k truck
 
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Old Aug 30, 2008 | 12:19 PM
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you totally missed his point... how's he gonna take those business partners in a truck with cloth seats that stain from water and cheap plastic interior...
thats true in his case,but most people dont buy trucks to carry around clients,they use them to work,where a 25k xl would be just as capable as a loaded 45k dollar truck
 
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Old Aug 31, 2008 | 09:04 AM
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Originally Posted by LxMan1
These threads are left in here because the webmaster said so.
This will help when Ford people read these forums to find out what customers are looking into.

'nough said about this issue.
i'm a little late, but sure...this makes perfect sense to me. now i should go check out the 6.4 forum to learn all about the new duramax products...yep...makes perfect sense
 
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Old Aug 31, 2008 | 09:25 AM
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Originally Posted by Ryan50hrl
Ford doesn't tell the dealers what they put on their lots.....the dealers order what they'll sell...and they sell tons of nav loaded 40k trucks...


and there are plenty of trucks that are worth the money...sticker on my truck was 43k and i use it as hard as anyone....in a year the bedliner is so beat to heck that i'm thinking of buying a new one....the trailer hitch is in use almost as much as its not.....and i've used all 9500 lbs of towing capacity (plus some) more than a handful of times.....


but the part that really makes it worth the 40k+ price....is that after a run through the car wash...I can take my high end clients out looking without needing a second car or renting something.....
They do SUGGEST what percentage of each trim level the dealers order and stock on their lots.
I do like a decently equipped truck. I have a 2001 F250 SC SB 4x4 XLT and it has plenty of bells and whistles for me. I can still work it and I have driven it to places while wearing a suit and tie. I don't need anything fancier.
I do think dealers should offer a few more less equiped models for those who want them.
 
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Old Aug 31, 2008 | 12:47 PM
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It's more than just a suggestion...

If you look at the order guides, Ford tells dealers what percentage of trucks they are going to build each model year.
 
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Old Aug 31, 2008 | 01:25 PM
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I have a 2001 F250 SC SB 4x4 XLT and it has plenty of bells and whistles for me.

i agree. my '08 XLT has about all the frills i need without being cluttered. dealer told me it was a rarity to find a truck without a pile of accessories. it was what i wanted, for a price i liked.
 
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Old Aug 31, 2008 | 08:30 PM
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my daily driver has a heater and a radio ....for now
 
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Old Aug 31, 2008 | 09:47 PM
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hey i been there. had a '96 similar to your '92 but i had the auto. the truck i miss the most.
 
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