Broke down while driving! Just shut off... down know why...
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Broke down while driving! Just shut off... down know why...
Well heres another one to add to the list for you guys...
Last night at 11:30pm on the way home from the movies (good thing I wasnt drinkin,
) my truck just broke down. And I mean broke down literally while driveing it down the rd down a hill. I came to a halt right in front of a Shell Station. Still had 43 Miles left in the tank.
Now I guess that tells me 2 things because in my mind a diesel can't be stopped with out 1.) Air or 2.) Fuel. If it has those it should keep truckin, correct or no?
My guess is that an oil pump went out (something that controls the injectors). I had no issues with the turbo recently and it sounded great before hand. I have an sct set on street and an AFE Stage 2 intake... Thats it.
This is the second time that the truck has just died like this on me and is leaving me VERY uneasy as I do ALOT of traveling long distance where there may be 50 miles in between gas stations. (well maybe 30)
Ended up towing the POS home 30 miles with my GF's inline six JEEP! it overheated it almost non-the-less but it got the job done and ran like a champ. Lst time a 4 runner had to tow me...
What could be the problem?
Thanks in advance,
Alex
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Last night at 11:30pm on the way home from the movies (good thing I wasnt drinkin,
) my truck just broke down. And I mean broke down literally while driveing it down the rd down a hill. I came to a halt right in front of a Shell Station. Still had 43 Miles left in the tank. Now I guess that tells me 2 things because in my mind a diesel can't be stopped with out 1.) Air or 2.) Fuel. If it has those it should keep truckin, correct or no?
My guess is that an oil pump went out (something that controls the injectors). I had no issues with the turbo recently and it sounded great before hand. I have an sct set on street and an AFE Stage 2 intake... Thats it.
This is the second time that the truck has just died like this on me and is leaving me VERY uneasy as I do ALOT of traveling long distance where there may be 50 miles in between gas stations. (well maybe 30)
Ended up towing the POS home 30 miles with my GF's inline six JEEP! it overheated it almost non-the-less but it got the job done and ran like a champ. Lst time a 4 runner had to tow me...
What could be the problem?
Thanks in advance,
Alex
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The electronic meter isn't accurate at all. I'm guessing you ran out of fuel, possibly due to the down-slope you were on causing it to slosh forward away from the fuel pickup.
Another possibility is a cracked HPOP fitting which is common on the '05s. If you have under 100k miles I'd get it in to the dealership and let Ford figure it out, just be sure and flash back to stock, take your X3 off, and put the stock intake back on first.
Another possibility is a cracked HPOP fitting which is common on the '05s. If you have under 100k miles I'd get it in to the dealership and let Ford figure it out, just be sure and flash back to stock, take your X3 off, and put the stock intake back on first.
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I find the lie-o-meter to be inaccurate but in the good way. I've driven 10-15mi past the 0mi til empty. I doubt he ran out of fuel.
What are the symptoms. It's kind of hard for anyone to troubleshoot what went wrong when all you say is "it broke down". Did it spit and sputter before? Did it put out any white or black smoke? Does it turn over? Any odd noises? etc..
What are the symptoms. It's kind of hard for anyone to troubleshoot what went wrong when all you say is "it broke down". Did it spit and sputter before? Did it put out any white or black smoke? Does it turn over? Any odd noises? etc..
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I had a problem with my 2003 and it shut off a few times - I cant exactly recall what it was but was on the frame - was it maybe a relay or something like that - it was probably 3 or 4 years ago so I apologize for not remembering exactly what the warranty repair was. If I just let mine sit, it would restart though. What do you need to do to start yours?
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Or just don't run it until its bone dry. I fill mine up when it gets to 1/4 tank, no reason to go lower unless I'm on a long trip between stations.
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Be careful. 6.0's HATE to run out of fuel. It'll destroy the injectors. They need the fuel run through them for lubrication. Ususally kills the right bank for some reason, 1,3,5,& 7. Also, 05's had BAD problems with the STC (Snap to Connect) fitting on the High Pressure oil pump feeding the branch tubes, which in turn feed the high pressure oil rails and then the injectors. No HP oil = Fuel injectors won't fire. Check codes, you'll ususally see a P2292 (I think, there are some others as well...) Description will be ICP Low while cranking. (Injection Control Pressure) Any ICP code basically will be a big tip off. I usually watch ICP data w/ the scan tool. You need at least 500 psi to fire the injectors. A bad STC will only pump about 300 at best. There's a whole TSB for it, and if it's under warranty, it'll have to be a dealer reapir, unless your a real sucker for punishment, 'cause they are not real fun to do....
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BTW - there are a lot of electronic interlocks that will cause these trucks to not run also. For the most part, they are there for the protection and performance of the vehicle.
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On a side note, we've got a 2006 F450 rescue truck at work that the fuel gauge never seems to hit F even with fuel spilling out of the filler tube. So when it gets down to a 1/2 tank it's really at 3/4.
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Riggz - I agree with you in principal. If there is something wrong - definitely address it - and perhaps in this case there is something going on. However - 43 miles left, even if reading accurately, is only 1/10 of a tank approximately. The sending units etc are probably not able to get much more accurate than that (if even that accurate). Then couple it with having to deal with sloshing and steep inclines - makes it very risky to run a tank that low. Especially when we know the problems that can happen with low fuel pressure and air in the system. If you get to know your truck and the offset in electronic vs accurate readings is repeatable - then maybe it is worth the risk occasionally. For me, I do not want to take that risk. For that reason, I harpooned the tank. Having seen a TON of electronic instrumentation in my job, I would not consider the truck a POS if it was actually empty when it read 43 miles left. We just do not have that kind of sophistication in the electronics.
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The "miles left" is an estimation based on the fuel sender and the poorly estimated mileage it has accumulated. This is not accurate at all. Running down to 15-25 miles left means you have only one gallon in your tank, which is very long so you're probably sucking a lot of air at that point. Keep up with it if you want, but I guarantee you will have injector problems eventually. I've run mine down until the fuel light has come on before, but based on how long I've run it past when the light came on and how much fuel I put in at fill-up it still has 3-4 gallons at that point.