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Old Feb 28, 2009 | 12:19 PM
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why dont you yry and find some one with the plastic/wax balnk that is with the ford trucks when they are new then all you do is insert the blank and pull it out and then take it to get keys made.

i know its a long shot but i found on at a local junk yard when i had this problem
 
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Old Feb 28, 2009 | 02:19 PM
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Originally Posted by lsrx101
Being a 92, it uses a 10-cut key. I believe the ign uses 6 cuts and the door 5 cuts with a 1 pin overlap. There are 5 depth positions for each cut.
At least I got the overlapping pin right
But if that's the case, there are way too many combinations for trial and error, no question about that.

It would then need to be disassembled and decoded, another time consuming process.
That is no more than 5 - 10 mins -- I was watching the locksmith when he re-keyed my ignition because the overlapping pin didn't match my door lock. (the ignition cylinder broke on me, I bought a new one from Ford and replaced it myself, but then I had to use 2 keys from that point on, and I wanted to go back to one key)

The removal and decoding of door lock. removal and reprogramming of ignition lock, making separate ignition only, door only, and combined keys [yes, I got all these ] and reassembly took about 1 hour, and I think I paid around $50 for everything. I did remove the door panel a day before, to provide quick access to the door lock.

I thought that was a great deal, even if it was in a small, rural city.
 
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Old Apr 2, 2009 | 03:51 PM
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That is a great deal, all the locksmiths I've talked to around here are asking a lot more than that.

You know where I might find these plastic/wax blanks?
 
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Old Mar 22, 2019 | 10:02 PM
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Ignition cylinder stuck in lock position

My Ignition cylinder stuck in lock position and I'm trying to get it out without messing anything up so that I can replace it with a new one. I have a 1992 Ford F-150 & it does have tilt steering. If you can look it up in your books that would be awesome.


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WhatIgnition cylinder stuck in lock position year is your truck and does it have a tilt steering wheel? It does make a difference as to how it is pulled.
Post back with info ,I have the books with the info on pulling the switch.

Kenny

Lost your job yet?
Keep buying foreign.
 
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Old Sep 20, 2019 | 10:18 PM
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Originally Posted by lsrx101
I've done dozens of Ford lock cylinders this way when there is no key:
-Break off the "wings" where you put the key in.
- Tap a large screwdriver into the key slot. Tap firmly but don't "drive" it in. Try to use a screwdriver with wrench flats below the handle.
- Force the lock to the RUN position while pushing in on the driver as hard as you can manage. This is to prevent it from camming out. Once it starts to shear, the cylinder will turn pretty easily.
-Depress the pin as usual and remove the cylinder. It will often come out on the tip of the screwdriver.
This is EXACTLY the information I have been scouring the web for. THANK-YOU SIR!!!
 
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Old Jun 24, 2020 | 12:56 PM
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2003 Ford Expedition lost key how to change ignition without

I was staying in hotel with two small kids and was driving my car but had my truck keys to my 2003 Ford Expedition with me. My kids obviously did something with them and now need to change ignition or pay locksmith I know I can buy new one with thing to program key for $150 verse paying $250 for locksmith but need to know how to get to release cylinder for ignition. Please let me know how to do this. Thanks

Originally Posted by Shelby1
What year is your truck and does it have a tilt steering wheel? It does make a difference as to how it is pulled.
Post back with info ,I have the books with the info on pulling the switch.

Kenny

Lost your job yet?
Keep buying foreign.
 
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Old Jun 25, 2020 | 10:40 AM
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I always just used a drill and a 1/2" diameter burr, takes just a couple of minutes. I could go maybe an inch in and then I could just push the pin in. Drilling the pin never worked for me.

Learned how when I worked for U-Haul and people would keep keys so they could come back and "BORROW THE TRUCK" when they wanted to. Used to keep several lock sets in my service rig for just this sort of problem.
 
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Old Jul 25, 2022 | 12:51 PM
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So you knock the entire silver piece off?

Originally Posted by lsrx101
There is no good way to remove the cylinder without destroying it. DON'T try and drill the pin! It is made to spin and deflect the drill bit, and you WILL damage the column. That bowl assembly is about $100 new if you damage it.

I've done dozens of Ford lock cylinders this way when there is no key:
-Break off the "wings" where you put the key in.
- Tap a large screwdriver into the key slot. Tap firmly but don't "drive" it in. Try to use a screwdriver with wrench flats below the handle.
- Force the lock to the RUN position while pushing in on the driver as hard as you can manage. This is to prevent it from camming out. Once it starts to shear, the cylinder will turn pretty easily.
-Depress the pin as usual and remove the cylinder. It will often come out on the tip of the screwdriver.
-Install the replacement cylinder as usual.
-Replacements come with only the ignition portion of the key cut. You can have a door lock decoded and have the key cut to match.
This destroys the lock cylinder internally without damaging the column.
There is a tool available that does essentially the same thing, it's called a Ford Ignition Bypass Tool and is about $50 the last I saw one.

Correction- The tool is $62 Lock Technology LT 78 Ford "Sure-Shot" Ignition By-Pass Key | Lock-Out Tools

 
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Old Jul 26, 2022 | 12:46 AM
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So you knock the entire silver piece off?

Yes. Grab it with channel locks and twist. It will break off where it's crimped onto the lock cylinder.
 
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Old Jul 26, 2022 | 07:54 AM
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Take the Sarah Palin
Then drill baby drill
All you need is the center section drilled out so you can push the pin and remove the rest
Use a Ford replacement
Buy a Ford lock set n ebay
Buy extra Ford keys
You can find one maybe that has the same square key for the door and ignition
We used to switch sets for the police, they always wanted only one key
 
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Old Aug 4, 2022 | 06:46 PM
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If your key is also the key that unlocks the doors, take a door lock cylinder out and it will have the code on it for a new key. Look in owner's manual. Sometimes dealers would write it there. In this area some of the dealers would scratch the numbers in on the firewall.
 
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Old Aug 11, 2022 | 04:55 AM
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You can break ignition lock with screwdriver. Unscrew the screws securing the plastic trim after locating them. When finished, take off the plastic trim to reveal the ignition switch. By removing the bolt mounting on the steering wheels, you may unlock them. Turn the screwdriver right after inserting it into the keyhole.
 
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Old Aug 30, 2022 | 06:44 PM
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Cool

You said "because I'm a ******* and have managed to lose all my ignition keys!

"if there IS a shortcut it's probably not a good idea to reveal it in an open forum!"

Fair enough, somebody want to PM me the super secret method??


Ford Guys.... someone please correct me if I'm wrong but couldn't a dealership "CODE" cut a set of keys.

My way is alllot more destructive, I used a ratchet strap and a slide hammer.

 
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Old Aug 30, 2022 | 08:32 PM
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The selling dealer sure could cut you a key using the code if they still had the packet
The packet about your trucks sale is most likely long gone
It is worth checking
Drill baby drill I said in a previous post
That is easy
 
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Old Oct 19, 2022 | 07:45 PM
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I recently bought a 1988 Bronco with out any keys.
The locksmith in town said no problem, bring me the truck.
I hauled it to him and in 2 hours he had a set of keys for me.
Cost $60. no damage done.
 
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