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Old Jul 31, 2008 | 08:39 PM
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Leaking E40D

My girl friend has a '91 F-150 with the 300 straight six and E40D and it is leaking transmission fluid from a rubber plug in the bottom of the bell housing when it is warm and running. What is the name of this part, and is this an indication of another problem?
 
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Old Jul 31, 2008 | 08:46 PM
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That is a inspection hole, that plug just keeps dirt out of the bell housing.

Your transmission is leaking out the front area of the trans, could be front seal or pump o-ring or the pump bushing spun, or a cracked converter.
 
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Old Jul 31, 2008 | 09:16 PM
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The leak is coming directly out of the inspection plug. There is no trace of oil in front of or behind it.
 
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Old Jul 31, 2008 | 09:23 PM
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Originally Posted by 06sonicsport4x4
The leak is coming directly out of the inspection plug. There is no trace of oil in front of or behind it.
Has to be, the plug is just in a hole in the bell housing itself, It holds no fluid.
 
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Old Aug 1, 2008 | 12:03 AM
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Originally Posted by 06sonicsport4x4
The leak is coming directly out of the inspection plug. There is no trace of oil in front of or behind it.
All the possible leak points he mentioned are up in the bell housing area..thats where it will come from..
 
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Old Aug 1, 2008 | 08:58 AM
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Most likely the converter seal is bad. This is typically caused by heat buildup due to another problem, usually the lockup clutch in the converter has failed. Do you know if your converter clutch is working or not?
 
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Old Aug 1, 2008 | 11:55 AM
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It seems to shift fine, it is a little rough on the 1-2 shift but that seemed normal to me, what is the sign of the convertor clutch not working? If I drop the pan and do a filter and new fluid swap would that ease the situation.
 
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Old Aug 1, 2008 | 01:25 PM
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Run the truck at a steady 50mph, and while holding this speed, tap the brake pedal. The RPM on the tach should go up briefly and then return to where it was. If it doesn't change, your converter clutch is not engaging.
 
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Old Aug 1, 2008 | 03:36 PM
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I took the truck for a drive on the highway, when you let off the gas and touch the brake the RPM just drops with the speed, but when you pick up on the throttle again the rpm raises slightly and the torque covertor re-engages normally. The leak has seemed to slow to a small drip.
 
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Old Aug 2, 2008 | 08:33 PM
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The tranny is still leaking pretty damn bad, I am going to have to pull it. I guess I am going to go ahead and replace most of the seals in it while I got it out.
 
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Old Aug 2, 2008 | 09:02 PM
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The tranny is likely overheating, if so replacing the seal won't help.

Check the cooling system for it, make sure the cooler is in good shape and the lines are not kinked or pinched. Make sure the cooling fan's clutch locks up as it should.

Also make sure the fluid cooler is mounted with very little gap between it and the radiator. If someone replaced the stock cooler with a after market cooler they tend to mount them to far forward. No air is drawn through em by the cooling fan like that. A fan shroud is needed as well, if its gone, put one back on it.

A sure sign it's the problem is the tranny leaks when in stop and go traffic sitting at traffic lights but stops when you break out onto the open road and it quits leaking. The steady air flow brings its temp down stopping the over pressure creating the leak.
 
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Old Aug 3, 2008 | 01:58 AM
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If its leaking 'pretty damn bad' from just stop and go traffic, you will most likely need to replace the seal anyways. The seal itsself is interesting, it has a metal outer ring that sits in the tranny, and the inner portion has a little rubber flap that encircles the converter shaft. This flap is held tight with a spring. When the fluid gets too hot, the spring stretches, and fluid goes everywhere. As aforementioned, check that the fan clutch is functioning. To check for proper fluid flow, unscrew the cooler line that flows from the trans to the cooler, at the cooler(hot side) and run the engine. Fluid should come out at the rate of about 1 quart per 30 sec. If it does not, you pump is broken, or the line is plugged. If flow is ok, preform the same test on the line returning from the cooler to trans (cool side) at the transmission - this will tell you if the cooler is plugged. If everything checks out then the converter may be burning up. Anyways, let us know that you find out...
 
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I took the truck for a drive on the highway, when you let off the gas and touch the brake the RPM just drops with the speed, but when you pick up on the throttle again the rpm raises slightly and the torque covertor re-engages normally. The leak has seemed to slow to a small drip.
Please note where I said "while holding this speed". You don't let off the gas, you hold it steady with your right foot, and tap the brake with your left foot, and see if the RPM goes up when you do this or not. If not, no converter lockup.
 
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Old Aug 4, 2008 | 01:31 PM
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Please note where I said "while holding this speed". You don't let off the gas, you hold it steady with your right foot, and tap the brake with your left foot, and see if the RPM goes up when you do this or not. If not, no converter lockup.
His description sounds like the converter is locking up fine. That's exactly what mine does.
 
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I pulled the tranny and replaced front seal, rear seal, torque convertor, filter, and pan gasket. I got it all ready to go back in tomorrow.
 
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