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Old Aug 3, 2008 | 11:52 PM
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There is no way that a 300 put out 620ftlbs of torque? Though that would explain the tyranny not holding up.
 
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Old Aug 4, 2008 | 06:34 AM
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Originally Posted by I6lover

P.S. I ended up shelling the 5 speed in that truck and never bothered to get a replacement. Other projects were more pressing. When i took it to the tranny shop they informed me the case had been warped and asked to dyno the motor so i said sure. came out to 620 torque. Dont remember the horse power.



620 tq, stock internals w/t a cam and stock heads with larger valves......someone lied you.

32lbhr injectors + stock engine = not the best idea.
 
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Old Aug 4, 2008 | 08:59 AM
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Where's my brown flag to throw?
 
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Old Aug 4, 2008 | 09:18 AM
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lol 620 tq on an NA, mild 300...hate to break it to ya I6Lover but there are things these engines cant do and that is one of them.
 
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Old Aug 4, 2008 | 12:27 PM
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maybe a 460 would do that
 
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Old Aug 4, 2008 | 12:42 PM
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Even a 460 would have trouble making 620 ft-lbs without some pretty serious work and maybe a stroker kit or artificial aspiration.
 
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Old Aug 4, 2008 | 07:05 PM
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Just so happens i have a 460 that puts out way more than 620 lbs torque. However its a bit more... extreme...

With the 300's its all about matching the intake to the cam to the power band.

Oh and i looked through my engine specs today i was wrong about the stock internals. Forged everything with a higher compression racing piston. the valves were more than a little over sized also. Sorry for any confusion. My price however was correct. But this was six years ago.
 
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Old Aug 4, 2008 | 09:02 PM
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I don't care what you do with the intake and cam, you aren't going to pull 620 ft-lbs out of a 300. Not gonna happen without artificial aspiration and nothing you can say will change that. Forged everything means nothing when the block tends to split in two about the 500 ft-lbs mark. Are you going to come back now and tell us you used an SVO block with a main girdle to keep it alive? You've either been grossly misinformed or you are full of crap. Which is it?
 
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Old Aug 4, 2008 | 09:41 PM
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Originally Posted by Silver Streak
I don't care what you do with the intake and cam, you aren't going to pull 620 ft-lbs out of a 300. Not gonna happen without artificial aspiration and nothing you can say will change that. Forged everything means nothing when the block tends to split in two about the 500 ft-lbs mark. Are you going to come back now and tell us you used an SVO block with a main girdle to keep it alive? You've either been grossly misinformed or you are full of crap. Which is it?


Jeez, SS.
 
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Old Aug 4, 2008 | 10:47 PM
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I am surprised. Just when I was about to start a thread on the principle that maybe we are looking too hard to make our "Torque Monsters" more refined. I mean we have been so spellbound with hi performance that maybe we should look at how to detune and try to keep a resectable amount of torque and go for the all out best gas mileage. What say Ye?
 
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Old Aug 4, 2008 | 11:15 PM
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I am surprised. Just when I was about to start a thread on the principle that maybe we are looking too hard to make our "Torque Monsters" more refined. I mean we have been so spellbound with hi performance that maybe we should look at how to detune and try to keep a resectable amount of torque and go for the all out best gas mileage. What say Ye?
You say "high performance" and "best gas mileage" like they are mutually exlusive and they aren't. Particulalry with the EFI engines, if you build the engine to be as efficient as it can be it will get excellent mileage and make great power. I don't believe it is unreasonable to expect a purpose built engine to make 220-230 hp and be able to get nearly 25 mpg. Efficiency is efficiency. If you make it easier for the engine to turn fuel into power it will run more efficiently all the time. Where people run into trouble is with drastic changes to the rpm range that force the engine to operate 99% of the time in an rpm range where efficiency has been sacrificed for the sake of adding power in the rpm range it is used in the other 1% of the time.
 
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Old Aug 5, 2008 | 08:09 AM
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To kinda put a different perspective out there but say the same thing as SS, for a mpg build, its generally considered ideal to put the peak TQ at or near the rpm you will be using the vehicle most.


Take a look at corvettes, trans ams using the "LS" engines, making nice hp in stock form, yet 30mpg is very much realistic.

On the flip side, take a 5.3/6.0 engine, which is the LS1/2/6's little brother but makes considerable less power, stick it in a "light" s-10 or fbody, and youd probably consider 25mpg to be the norm.
 
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Old Aug 5, 2008 | 09:40 AM
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Originally Posted by Silver Streak
I don't care what you do with the intake and cam, you aren't going to pull 620 ft-lbs out of a 300. Not gonna happen without artificial aspiration and nothing you can say will change that. Forged everything means nothing when the block tends to split in two about the 500 ft-lbs mark. Are you going to come back now and tell us you used an SVO block with a main girdle to keep it alive? You've either been grossly misinformed or you are full of crap. Which is it?
Thats what i was thinking. And i bet its the latter
 
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