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Old Jul 15, 2008 | 11:54 PM
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Everything depends on how extreme of a wheelin rig you want. What you tend to use it for, mud, rockcrawlin, your driving habbits, are you one of those guys with a heavy right foot? Do you try to do 4-wheel burnouts? Thats what is going to decide what drivetrain will hold up. The other day at the mudbogs there was a 79 1/2 ton with 44s and a 460 and he did just fine. For me personaly I like overkill, Im not happy unless I have 1 ton running gear. lol
 
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Old Jul 16, 2008 | 03:45 PM
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Alright new question... I found a 460 complete with a c6 trany but he thinks it was out of a 2wd truck, is the c6 going to work? Will the transfer case bolt up?
 
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Old Jul 16, 2008 | 04:47 PM
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Nope, it won't bolt right up. You'll have to gut the tranny and install the short (4wd) output shaft.
 
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Old Jul 16, 2008 | 05:00 PM
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So I would be better off just finding a c6 tranny from a 4x4.. does it have to have a 460 in front of it? or will any motor work? Also is there a kit or relocation bracket for the tranny mount?
 
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Old Jul 16, 2008 | 06:03 PM
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hey, if your going to go 460 i would honestly keep that NP435. the toughest manual out there IMO. thats what i got in my high boy and all it sees is abuse.
unless you go crazy with a 460 build that 9" will hold unless ur doing burnies with wheel hopp. there good rears and will handle a stock 460 unless ur doing dumb stuff like i said.

as far as the 360/390, you can build them do be damn good motors. i would accualy perfer a true built 390 in my truck over a 460. but there both good motors so you can really do what ever you want.

like i said, i can get a 460 for you. its just a phone call away. let me know
mitch
ohh ya my high boy is sitting in my mudd pit as we speak, haha.
 
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Old Jul 16, 2008 | 06:05 PM
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the only trannys that will fit up to a 460 is the 351/400M 429 and of course the 460. "there might be another but i cant remember" just save urself the time and get the 4x4 tranny.
again just my .02 cents.
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Old Jul 16, 2008 | 06:14 PM
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mitch - I found a 460 and 2wd tranny complete motor for 350 bucks, is that a good deal? If so can you find me a c6 4x4 tranny? Other wise is your motor complete or just the block? Thanks bud!

I'd like to get rid of the NP435 and swap in an auto, i think it's better for my drivin style
 
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Old Jul 16, 2008 | 06:24 PM
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350 bux is not a bad deal at all if you know the tranny and motor works. with the c-6's i dont know if you can just change out the tail shaft and get the t-case to bolt up, but if i remember right i think you have to change the tailshaft?

ummmmmm i can call my parts guy and see if he has a c-6 for you. im going to say no but he might be able to get one.

dont get me wrong the c-6 is a good tranny. better then the powerstrokes e4od ya remember them POS's haha.

ill go talk to the guy. need to drop off his plates anyways.
ill let you know.
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Old Jul 16, 2008 | 07:03 PM
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Easiest to find a 4wd trans-as long as it works. The factory 460 trans do usually have one extra clutch in the clutch pack-I think, plus a different vacuum modulator and rod.
Also find a 460 truck kickdown rod! I think the 2wd kickdown will work.
Using a 351m/400 C6 will work fine-just make sure you get the trans to transfer case adapter for the Np205-it should be iron, and have a notch for the shift lever assembly-and the standard Ford 6 bolt pattern-which I believe is the same from the 70's to the late 80's, and the same spline count-31. Hehe, the Chevy guys don't have it so easy with the spline count. The 4wd trans will have a deeper sump pan too, which is a bonus.

I bought a parts 78' parts bronco that had a rebuilt C6/Np205, and its working great in my F250. I do recommend finding the correct vac. modulator and rod from a big block-it will allow the trans. to build more pressure, and less chance of slippage=longer life, plus add a trans cooler, even more insurance of long life.
I too had a 4spd-divorced though, it was worn out thats why I went auto-but I didn't want to try and set up the factory column shift, so I put in an aftermarket shifter w. cable-way easy.

You could just mate the 460 to the bulletproof 4spd and not worry about driveshafts too-alot of variables to consider.
Some food for thought!
 
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Old Jul 16, 2008 | 09:33 PM
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how hard is it to mate the 4spd to the 460? haha i like easy
 
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Old Jul 16, 2008 | 10:00 PM
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Go to L&Ls website, they have everything you need.
 
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Old Jul 16, 2008 | 10:18 PM
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This may sound noobish... what does it mean when a transfer case is divorced, did the trannsmission kick it out? i hope the transfercase gets to keep the dog haha! but seriously? i r confused
 
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Old Jul 16, 2008 | 10:58 PM
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i might sudjest keeping the 360, until you find a 460.... then build or what ever you want the 460, then swap out... that away, theres only a little bit of time where the truck isnt driveable, if its your only source of transportation...
 
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Old Jul 17, 2008 | 12:20 AM
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Originally Posted by ech0sh4y
This may sound noobish... what does it mean when a transfer case is divorced, did the trannsmission kick it out? i hope the transfercase gets to keep the dog haha! but seriously? i r confused
That means the transfer case is not bolted to the transmission, it's separate (uses three total driveshafts).

Originally Posted by ech0sh4y
mitch - I found a 460 and 2wd tranny complete motor for 350 bucks, is that a good deal? If so can you find me a c6 4x4 tranny? Other wise is your motor complete or just the block? Thanks bud!

I'd like to get rid of the NP435 and swap in an auto, i think it's better for my drivin style
For $350, I would buy it. Take the C-6 to a good transmission shop and have them rebuilt to tow (they'll use heavier duty components) and they can also make sure it'll be compatible with the transfer case.

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dont get me wrong the c-6 is a good tranny. better then the powerstrokes e4od ya remember them POS's haha.
Hmmm... I assume the Diesel E4OD is the same as the 460 E4OD... as in the one in your sig... from what I hear they're damn good transmissions. I'll be putting one behind my 460.
 
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Old Jul 17, 2008 | 01:10 PM
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fwhen you build them they can be OK. but a stock e40d....... mehh not sitting very high in my book. they just wont handle the tourqe from the diesel for that long. they can be lets say very bit**Y.
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