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Old Jul 13, 2008 | 03:43 PM
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tag lights

Got pulled over twice last light within 5 mins of eachother for my tag lights not working. Cops were both cool and said just get them fixed.
All my other lights work fine.

Soo my tag lights dont work at all and there is no wiring going to them. If I got new ones where do I wire them into?

Thinking about just getting a lighted frame but also dont know how they connect to any wiring. I dont think I have my trailer lights plug either. This would probably be the best route to go because im wanting to get a roll pan soon.
 
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Old Jul 13, 2008 | 04:02 PM
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You mean the lights on your bumper that illuminate you license plate? Most of them are a one wire hookup with a self grounding body. Just connect the power wire for the light to the brown wire on the back of your truck. The brown wire is for your marker lights. If you have a 2 wire light, then obviously you just need to ground the other wire.
 
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Old Jul 13, 2008 | 06:45 PM
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I ended up buying a frame that has LEDs in it.

Now I dont know how to wire it.

The frame has a (-) a (+) and a (brake) wire. I dont know where to connect them too. Seems like all my wiring is "jerry rigged" and I dont see a brown wire any where.

here is the frame wiring
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Wiring under truck
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Old Jul 13, 2008 | 06:49 PM
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i got this same problem im missing one and the other one is blown
 
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Old Jul 13, 2008 | 07:53 PM
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Not sure if the license frame is going to be legal for license illumination.

Brown wire to + wire for the license illumination.

The minus (-) wire to the frame.

The Brake wire, you are going to have to run a wire, all the way down the frame rail to your brake pedal to make this work correctly. Off the stop lamp switch you will want to splice into the Light Green wire. Not the Light Green/Red hash wire. Hooked up from the brake pedal this way, your license frame will not blink when the turn signals are on.

As for your pictures...

The Brown wire is located in that harness you took a picture of in pic #2 on the left side.

Also You will notice the wires right in the middle of the pic #2. Those look brown to me.

In picture number three, you are holding the Brown wire in your hand. Third wire from the left.

Also it's common for very short sections of harness extentions to have black wire, or Black with white stripes or hash marks, to complete a circut from the main color wire.

That wire on the right side of picture #2 looks like the license plate "bumper" harness, with the lamp housings unpluged. Follow that wire back to the main harness, and If it connects to the Brown wire, use that wire for illumiation.

Hope this helps.
 
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Old Jul 13, 2008 | 09:56 PM
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ok thanks. Ill try them out tomorrow.

It better be legal, The guy at auto zone said it should be as long as I use the white light and not red.

I couldn't tell that the wire in my picture was brown until I got it on here. They all looked black to me.

I looked up the frame I got on the internet and it said "great for roll pans" so you dont have to put lights into the roll pan.

Here I have it hooked up to a battery. It lights it up pretty good so it should be legal.
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Probably wont use the red, Looks cool though
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Old Jul 14, 2008 | 10:35 AM
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Does the red only come one when the brake wire has power? Seems to me it would function as some sort of third brake light. If thats the case, I would hook it up and see how long it takes to get stopped. Technically I can see it being legal, but I can also see a cop arguing that it isn't.
 
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Old Jul 14, 2008 | 01:05 PM
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the red light would probably be a 3rd brake light because there are the trailer reciever hitch covers that are led that jc whitney have and they light up when u are hitting ur brakes so its probably similar to that im gonna get that dag gum ford reciever hitch cover with the blue led's its B.A. lookin
 
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Old Jul 14, 2008 | 01:16 PM
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Originally Posted by nflfreak43
the red light would probably be a 3rd brake light because there are the trailer reciever hitch covers that are led that jc whitney have and they light up when u are hitting ur brakes so its probably similar to that im gonna get that dag gum ford reciever hitch cover with the blue led's its B.A. lookin

Just because JC Whitney sells them doesn't mean they are legal.

I don't care for any additional "added on" lights for what it's worth.

Keep it stock. Less is more and the cleaner the better.
 
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Old Jul 14, 2008 | 01:37 PM
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yeh but some things i just like like that for the most part i like things to be stock mostley except the exhaust and maybe a radio but the led's reciever hitch is just to cool to pass up
 
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Old Jul 14, 2008 | 05:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Sycostang67
Does the red only come one when the brake wire has power? Seems to me it would function as some sort of third brake light. If thats the case, I would hook it up and see how long it takes to get stopped. Technically I can see it being legal, but I can also see a cop arguing that it isn't.
Yes it should be a third brake light. I guess i could do that and see if I ever get stopped. But I dont really want to run a wire all the way down my frame to the plate to get the brake light working.

Been raining all day today so I haven't been able to do anything.

uncle.stosh : In case you haven't noticed im not really into stock.
 
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Old Jul 14, 2008 | 06:56 PM
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I did not notice that....

Question: Why don't you just tap into the existing brake light wire near the back like they do with trailer lights?

Am I missing something here? There's no need to run a new wire all the way to the pedal.
 
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Old Jul 14, 2008 | 07:04 PM
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Originally Posted by uncle.stosh
I did not notice that....

Question: Why don't you just tap into the existing brake light wire near the back like they do with trailer lights?

Am I missing something here? There's no need to run a new wire all the way to the pedal.
I was thinking I could get a pigtail and cut the end off that gos to the trailer and connect the wires to it. Would that work?

I had no luck splicing into any the brown wire.
 
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Old Jul 15, 2008 | 10:59 AM
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Originally Posted by uncle.stosh
I did not notice that....

Question: Why don't you just tap into the existing brake light wire near the back like they do with trailer lights?

Am I missing something here? There's no need to run a new wire all the way to the pedal.
Yes he could, but since both of those wires at the back of the truck for the brake lights also activate the turn signals, the 3rd brake light would flash with one of the turn signals. It's not a big deal, more of a personal preference I guess.

The pigtail idea will work for the tag light, but if you do decide to run the brake light through it, you will get the flashing red light with one of your turn signals. I used to have one of those 3rd brake light hitch plugs that just plugged into the trailer plug and it flashed when I used my right blinker.

I can totally respect the clean stock trucks, but I have to change things or I get bored with what I am driving. To each his own.
 
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Old Jul 15, 2008 | 01:19 PM
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Nope, brake lights and turn signals are on different filaments in the bulb.

You should always have both brake lights on when the turn signal is flashing. You just have to make sure you tap into the correct wire.
 
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