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Old Jul 11, 2008 | 04:53 PM
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Question hp 408 ?

i have a 351m and need piston change so i bought .030 over 400 piston and a rebuilt 400 crank, aussie head, straight up timing chain, eldelbroock manifold, 600 cfm manual choke and comp cam xe256.duration .050 int 212 exh 219
lobe 110 @.006 int 22 btdc 54 abdc exh 68 bbdc 20 atdc ( 256 int 268exh)with tim forged piston zero deck for aussie head how many horse power and torque should i expect ? thanks
 
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Old Jul 11, 2008 | 05:11 PM
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HI mustang, how is it going? hey why dont you take some pictures of that mustang with the 400, I will upload some of my mustang with my 400, I recomend using nlarge tube headers and some tube silencers for an open exauhst feel, here are your numbers with the headers:
torque:
458@2000
466@2500
465@3000
hp:
352@4500

good numbers, what do you have for a rear on that tang ?
 
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Old Jul 12, 2008 | 02:14 PM
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Ups sorry i did with the wrong cr, i was messing around with other builds and confussed yours here are your real results:

torque:
466@2000
476@2500
474@3000
hp:
349@4500

jejeje sorry... Also ive noticed you will have a dcr of 8.2:1, Dont know with the quench but i asume you will need to run 93 octane....
 
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Old Jul 13, 2008 | 10:00 AM
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Hey, i have almost the same engine, stock heads with tmi 9.5:1 pistons for 76cc chambers. same cam and timing set, with 1.71 rockers, and open headers. everything else is the same.

What power does that make?
 
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Old Jul 13, 2008 | 12:39 PM
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hollenjoe i forget i have roller rocker
 
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Old Jul 13, 2008 | 06:00 PM
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Originally Posted by RJR99SS
Hey, i have almost the same engine, stock heads with tmi 9.5:1 pistons for 76cc chambers. same cam and timing set, with 1.71 rockers, and open headers. everything else is the same.

What power does that make?
on a 335 engine? comon get 1.73 even stock are this way, lift will be diferent with 171, anyways, numbers run very equally to mustangs81 due to the fact that he has also around 9.5:1 scr and aussie flow the same as 2v open chambered heads, diference in 171 and 173 rockers will be in lift and wont really afect that much, so Id say you`d loose 2 hp and 3 or 4 lbs of torque....



mustang 81 roller rockers will mostly benefit on the life of the cam and yeah will have a bit but a tiny bit more power due to friccion that a dyno sym wouldnt show
 
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Old Jul 18, 2008 | 12:36 AM
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almost the same thing on dyno . what's about in real life? just curioust?? tanks!!!
 
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Old Jul 18, 2008 | 02:01 AM
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well real life depends alot on tunning, precision etc so it could be pretty close on an engine really well built and tunned....
 
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Old Jul 18, 2008 | 08:30 PM
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Hey, can anybody run the numbers for my 400?
bored .040
aussie 2v heads 2.19 intake, 1.71 exhaust valves
Tim's hyperutectic pistons for aussie heads
10:1 compression
comp cams magnum 294 solid cam .605 lift
holley 750 double pumper
1.75 inch headers and no exhaust
comp cams 1.73 roller rockers
performer 400 intake with 2 in spacer
91 octane or race gas
timing set straight up
I think thats it.
By the way what is a 400 bored .040?
 
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Old Jul 18, 2008 | 09:31 PM
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thats an agresive built, are you drag racing? are you sure you have 10:1 cuz then you chambers are only 54cc, anyways i wouldve used forged pistons with 19cc of custom dish to get around 11.3:1 and a dcr of 8.4:1 with the quench you shouldve been able to use 91 octane, a single plane manifold wouldve helped in you aplication....anyways you have a dcr of 7.4:1 you are good for 89 octane, here are your numbers:

torque:
375@2000
455@4500
hp
442@5500

you gotta be sure your on the right track here, if draging or mud racing aint your aplication let us know so that we can give you more advice....and oh yeah you have a 410.2 cid engine...
 
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Old Jul 19, 2008 | 12:13 AM
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I am mud racing. My class is supposed to run pump gas only, thats why I didn't go for some higher compression. I wanted to make sure I could run it on pump gas. And I live on a farm. I wanted to be able to drive it around and go muddin on the farm without buying race gas all the time. The single plane manifold will have to come later since you have to buy the spacers at about $250 or $260 and then the manifold on top of that. My cr is just an estimate. But if it helps to determine about where it is, my pistons are obout .010 above the deck, the raised part any way. I dont think my machinist cc'd the heads. I haven't picked it up yet. And I thought that the aussie heads were about 60cc. But my machinest did tell me that adding the bigger valves would reduce the cc's. I am also running a 3500 stall converter, 4.56 gears, and 36's. Do you know any companies that make a single plane manifold for the 400 so i dont have to but adapters.
 
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Old Jul 19, 2008 | 04:59 PM
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Yeah thats tooo expensive, hollley made one but its discontinued, you can do something about it though. Take the performer intake and grind or cut of the dual plane separation wall or get a 2" spacer for a single plane manifold, either way you will get a single plane feel.....
 
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Old Jul 19, 2008 | 07:43 PM
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Yeah thats tooo expensive, hollley made one but its discontinued, you can do something about it though. Take the performer intake and grind or cut of the dual plane separation wall or get a 2" spacer for a single plane manifold, either way you will get a single plane feel.....
Edlebrock made a streetmater single plane intake years ago for a 400. I have one, and the plenum area is not all that big. It looks to have about the same RPM range or slightly higher than a performer. I'd honestly rather have the Holley single plane.
 
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Old Jul 19, 2008 | 08:22 PM
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yeah broncoman you are right but that manifold for the 400 was discontinued and the 351c version would get expensive due to the spacers, although it would still be the performance wise option...
 
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Old Jul 20, 2008 | 08:34 PM
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Has anybody actually tried grinding out the seperator on the performer and does it actually give you more power? What about doing this and run a carb spacer?
 
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